PECE application and interview

[iyo karpo]

That's the reality we have to face. Baka sa next set of ECE Board magbago na.

Hwag ka ng maghintay. I-try mo lang.

Ganoon din ako noon bago ko nakuha ang PEE, first attempt bagsak (pinatalsik pa sa Review Center as instructor). Second attempt - topnotcher.

[,,V, (@_@) ,V,,]

OT:

Sin0 po ba dapat k0ng k0ntakin sa prc? Di ko kasi alam tel# ng prc.. Nung nagpasa kasi ak0 ng applicati0n f0rm para sa b0ard exam nagkamali ako ng nailagay sa Birth Place tsaka Rurban code nung birth place...
Magkakaproblema kaya un?

[Kid Kulafu]

The Board of ECE interviews PECE applicant with incomplete documents according to those who attended the Mid-Year convention.

Hindi na daw kailangan ang significant engineering work basta may teaching experience. Some are concerned with the QUALITY of PECE they produce coz some lack industry experience and does not know how to make designs compliant to industry standards and safety practices.

[iyo karpo]

The Board of ECE interviews PECE applicant with incomplete documents according to those who attended the Mid-Year convention.

Hindi na daw kailangan ang significant engineering work basta may teaching experience. Some are concerned with the QUALITY of PECE they produce coz some lack industry experience and does not know how to make designs compliant to industry standards and safety practices.

That the reason why there is CPE. Unfair naman sa mga taga-academe kung bawalan mo silang mag take ng PECE. Mawala ang motivation nila, mas masira pa ang quality ng future engineers.

Yan ang nagyari ngayon sa EE, bumaba an enrolment ng EE at maraming REE nag-shift sa caregiver course.

[maldihtah13]

This is not to down those that are in the academe because i've been there also but it's a totally different story when your out there in the jungle of the industry. Everyday is a learning process which you can't get from seminars and trainings. There are some who continue their passion in electronics and practice them while teaching those are the guys with which the student can learn a lot but there are some who are stuck in reading and relying only on books. I believe that it is time for the board to modify the application procedure and incorporate projects done by the applicant and his role on the said project. The only bad news here is that some from the academe would probably use their students project. This is only based on some testimonial from the students who said that their instructor used their projects on their masteral requirement.

[iyo karpo]

This is not to down those that are in the academe because i've been there also but it's a totally different story when your out there in the jungle of the industry. Everyday is a learning process which you can't get from seminars and trainings. There are some who continue their passion in electronics and practice them while teaching those are the guys with which the student can learn a lot but there are some who are stuck in reading and relying only on books. I believe that it is time for the board to modify the application procedure and incorporate projects done by the applicant and his role on the said project. The only bad news here is that some from the academe would probably use their students project. This is only based on some testimonial from the students who said that their instructor used their projects on their masteral requirement.

I have seen co-faculty members using students as research assistants to do research for themselves. But with the availability of internet, requiring members of the academe to post their research work in school website for everyone to see will discourage this practice.

The quality of future graduates depends on the academe. North American EE professors are given research assignments by private companies. Is this done in the Philippines?

CPE, Continuing Professional Education, is needed to enhance product knowledge of those in the Academe.

Lack of product knowledge has caused many engineering firms heavy losses in technical liability claims which amount to millions of dollars. Puro handbook at technical manuals lang sila, walang product knowledge.

[gbbot]

Hello. this is my first posting here. i've been out of the country for 8 year now. registered ECE way back 1994, renewed 1997 then  stop. Never registered with IECEP, (didn't see the need, relevance for advancement then and now?), how to become a PECE if i go back? Working as a lecturer in an engineering department. any reply will be appreciated.

[Kid Kulafu]

Hello. this is my first posting here. i've been out of the country for 8 year now. registered ECE way back 1994, renewed 1997 then  stop. Never registered with IECEP, (didn't see the need, relevance for advancement then and now?), how to become a PECE if i go back? Working as a lecturer in an engineering department. any reply will be appreciated.

Just ask IECEP nearest you about the details. Maybe you will pay backdues equivalent to 10 years and spend around 10k to 15k for processing of needed documents and end-up with PECE license without use at the moment.

[iyo karpo]

Hello. this is my first posting here. i've been out of the country for 8 year now. registered ECE way back 1994, renewed 1997 then  stop. Never registered with IECEP, (didn't see the need, relevance for advancement then and now?), how to become a PECE if i go back? Working as a lecturer in an engineering department. any reply will be appreciated.

mag PE or P. Eng ka nalang. may racial discrimination ba dyan?

[Kid Kulafu]

This is not to down those that are in the academe because i've been there also but it's a totally different story when your out there in the jungle of the industry. Everyday is a learning process which you can't get from seminars and trainings. There are some who continue their passion in electronics and practice them while teaching those are the guys with which the student can learn a lot but there are some who are stuck in reading and relying only on books. I believe that it is time for the board to modify the application procedure and incorporate projects done by the applicant and his role on the said project. The only bad news here is that some from the academe would probably use their students project. This is only based on some testimonial from the students who said that their instructor used their projects on their masteral requirement.

This is true. Dapat yung screening sa PECE ay taasan ang level. Merong project or thesis. Experience from teaching by reading books alone is not enough.

[toasted siopao]

Sinasabi mo na yan kasi may PECE ka na.

[glutnix_neo]

This is BS, kung di lang required sa pagtuturo ko ang PECE di ako kukuha nyan, actually nagiisip pa ako kung kukuha ako nyan or titigil na lang ako sa pagtuturo, magbibisnis na lang ako...

[iyo karpo]

This is true. Dapat yung screening sa PECE ay taasan ang level. Merong project or thesis. Experience from teaching by reading books alone is not enough.

unfair to sa mga ECE instructors na gustong mag-PECE.

[toasted siopao]

Sinasabi nya yan para wala na sya ka kumpetensya sa PECE.

Anyway, kung seryoso sya sa bagay na sinasabi nya, bakit di nya isoli ang license nya sa PECE at mag-apply ulit kapag ganyan na guidelines.

[Kid Kulafu]

@toasted siopao:
Bro, ano ba yung hinanakit mo na sabihin na "para wala akong ka kumpetensya sa PECE"? Hindi ko naman minaliit yung kakayahan mo sa forum dito diba? I don't know u personally -- baka mas magaling ka pa sa akin

Tingnan mo lang yung requirements ng Professional Electrical Engineer at Professional Mechanical Engineer at i-compare sa PECE requirements na na pupulitika pa.

At saka bakit ko isoli yung license eh yung mga projects ko with certifications from telco company yung nakatulong sa interview plus mga IT certifications ko from respected software and hardware manufacturers.
Ang point ko lang naman na dapat yung PECE applicant ay meron syang sapat na experience & skills. Kasi kung puro lang libro yung binasa mo hindi sapat yun. You can talk or teach about RF theory and devices by just reading books, pero subukan mo mag-assemble at mag-tune nang 100-watt RF amplifier from  discrete components mahihirapan ka kung puro lang theory sa libro ang alam mo. Dapat theory and hand-on (sa industry) ang talent ng PECE including managerial skills.

[etp6716_494]

My advantage b kung nagmasteral ka muna bago magPECE compared dun s BS lng?

sabi nila mas madali raw ang may MS at Doctorate lalo na kung inclined sa field ng ECE... sa CPE, pasok na pasok sa kailangan...

[toasted siopao]

@toasted siopao:
Bro, ano ba yung hinanakit mo na sabihin na "para wala akong ka kumpetensya sa PECE"? Hindi ko naman minaliit yung kakayahan mo sa forum dito diba? I don't know u personally -- baka mas magaling ka pa sa akin

Tingnan mo lang yung requirements ng Professional Electrical Engineer at Professional Mechanical Engineer at i-compare sa PECE requirements na na pupulitika pa.

At saka bakit ko isoli yung license eh yung mga projects ko with certifications from telco company yung nakatulong sa interview plus mga IT certifications ko from respected software and hardware manufacturers.
Ang point ko lang naman na dapat yung PECE applicant ay meron syang sapat na experience & skills. Kasi kung puro lang libro yung binasa mo hindi sapat yun. You can talk or teach about RF theory and devices by just reading books, pero subukan mo mag-assemble at mag-tune nang 100-watt RF amplifier from  discrete components mahihirapan ka kung puro lang theory sa libro ang alam mo. Dapat theory and hand-on (sa industry) ang talent ng PECE including managerial skills.

Kasi napapansin ko sayo panay ang point out mo sa hindi pag implement ng RA9292 sa building code.

To tell you the truth, ako mismo ayaw ko ma-implement ito, and kahit pa maging PECE ako, ayaw ko pa ring ma-implement ito.

Mas gusto ko ma-implement yung lahat ng technical repair shops na being run, operated, manned by electronics technicians, be it cellphone, appliance repair or any shop be supervised by a duly licensed PECE.

Now, gusto mo magbago ang guidelines sa PECE, well me too! Ok lang yung from academe, pero dapat yung ma-apply sa academe ay di lang papel ang dapat i-submit kung hindi yung thesis nya sa MS with HARDWARE! I have seen thesis na lahat simulations, well to tell you, lalo na sa RF at communications, lahat panay simulations! And put@ng ina, those kind of thesis and even dissertations sucks!

Kung babaguhin guidelines, lahat ng PECE ay isoli license nila at mag-reapply, NO FEES! Re-evaluate yung credentials!

I agree with you that dapat included sa PECE application ay di lang yung technical skills kundi pati yung supervisory and managing skills, as a professional you are not only expected to do research in your own but also share and listen to your co-workers.

Haven't you asked yourself pano naging PECE yung mga natuturo sa review centers na wala field experience?!

[Quw3rTii]

^ karamihan pa ng thesis ay konting modify lang new thesis na.

Dapat yung panel (Examiners) na pagdedepensahan ng thesis ay may minimum na graduate degrees related sa ECE paano na lang yung isang PECE applicant na may thesis na pangMS/PhD ang level, makakaintindi kaya at makakarelate ang Panel?. Sa current examiners ngayon wala pa yatang may graduate degrees sa kaninan na related sa ECE. Yung isang current chairman of the board mayroon nga pero MPA degree naman.

[Kid Kulafu]

^ karamihan pa ng thesis ay konting modify lang new thesis na.

Dapat yung panel (Examiners) na pagdedepensahan ng thesis ay may minimum na graduate degrees related sa ECE paano na lang yung isang PECE applicant na may thesis na pangMS/PhD ang level, makakaintindi kaya at makakarelate ang Panel?. Sa current examiners ngayon wala pa yatang may graduate degrees sa kaninan na related sa ECE. Yung isang current chairman of the board mayroon nga pero MPA degree naman.

Kaya pala.

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September 2011 Professional Electronics Engineer Examination Results Released
Sep 07, 2011
The Professional Regulation Commission (PRC) announces that 20 passed the Professional Electronics Engineer Examination given by the Board of Electronics Engineering in Manila this September 2011.

The members of the Board of Electronics Engineering are Engr. Sylvia I. Marcelo, Chairman and Engr. Joel B. Bajador, Member.







Fourteen IECEP-KSA-CRC members who passed the examination are indicated below. Below is the complete roll of successful examinees in the PROFESSIONAL ELECTRONICS ENGINEER EXAMINATION (PECE) held in September 2011 and was released on September 2, 2011 by PRC.

SEQ. NO.   N A M E

1   ALLER, GENARD BENTULAN - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
2   BELTRAN, ROMY TAMAYO - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
3   BONIFACIO, JANDEE REYES - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
4   CALMONA, FREDERICK CARAMAT - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
5   CASTROJO, ANTHONY AMIGABLE - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
6   CORTES, REYNALDO AMISTAD
7   DE LUNA, DARNELL HERNANDEZ
8   GIBAS, MODESTO NEVADO - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
9   LAMBINO, MERCEDENIA ARCE
10   LIMBAGA, ANTONIO ANGELO JUAN
11   MANALO, ENRICO LUCERO - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
12   OBERES, GLENN MOSQUEDA - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
13   OLIVA, OSCAR FAUSTINO - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
14   ONDE, NESITO LAURITO - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
15   PANGANIBAN, LEOPOLDO II ESPENILLA - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
16   RED, JOSE AGNI CARMEN - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
17   RONQUILLO, RENE DELA CRUZ - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
18   SALVADOR, RODRIGO SARMIENTO
19   TISTON, JONATHAN MORALES - (IECEP-KSA-CRC member)
20   ZERRUDO, ROMEO LOPEZ JAENA

Manila, Philippines
September 2, 2011

RECOMMENDING APPROVAL:

SYLVIA I. MARCELO
Chairman
Board of Electronics Engineering

APPROVED:
TERESITA R. MANZALA
Chairperson