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« on: March 05, 2009, 10:06:54 AM »

In your opinions ano bah ang dapat nating gamitin in the time of voting dito sa pinas?

kung manual voting that we experience already and we saw what happened?

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tong Computerized Voting na ginagamit sa US pero dito hindi pa?

same lng bah ang mangyayari na madadaya parin?

hmmmm... Huh Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 10:39:38 AM »

IMHO, computerized voting is harder to cheat.
Time/Delay is a key factor in cheating.  If the results came in fast then cheaters has no time to change the results.
This makes it harder to do cheating.

In past elections, the "revised" returns are the ones that came late.

But if somebody has the capability to cheat, computerized or manual kind doesn't matter.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 02:16:14 PM »

pag gusto me paraan...
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 02:32:18 PM »

uu nga lalo na mga pinoy magaling sa mga paraan, talagang ha2napan ng lusot o butas para mkapasok.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 09:26:04 PM »

pwede rin naman talagand dayain ang automated, pero as sir zerowing said, kailangan mas mabilis mandaya 'yung mga magbabalak.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 09:33:41 PM »

mas ok ang automated. dito sa school namin automated ang election ng dept ng ece at ee. at the end of the day ng election, may final at official results kaagad.. mas mabilis kasi talaga..
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 09:40:55 PM »

mga politikong mandaraya lang ang ayaw ipatupad yan kesyo na onti na lang raw ang time or kaya wlang budget  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2009, 10:31:27 PM »

anong kaguluhan na naman itech... Grin Grin Grin

Engineering election na naman...
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2009, 09:51:10 AM »

mga politikong mandaraya lang ang ayaw ipatupad yan kesyo na onti na lang raw ang time or kaya wlang budget  Grin

kung magkakaroon kasi ng dayaan dito, panigurado mas malaking lagayan o kaya mas malaking pwersa. doon na kasi sa tally kailangang palitan. Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 07:22:57 AM »

another reason,
sa tingin ko kaya ayaw ng maraming politiko yung computerized (mostly matatandang politiko, kung napansin nyo) kasi di sila marunong sa computer. di nila alam kung ano ang pwedeng gawin sa computer. takot silang sumubok, saka takot sila na baka di na gumana yung style nila sa pandaraya... pero big factor yung di sila marunong magcomputer Grin mostly ng matatanda ganito naman eh...

sa tingin ko, hindi basta basta mahahack yung computerized voting...
mahirap sigurong maghack ng maguumpisa ka sa election day, tapos before the election ends dapat naihack mo na.

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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 08:05:05 AM »

Ayaw ko ng computerized voting as proposed as is ng senate or ng comelec.

Maraming methods sa computerized voting, problem is, yung proposed method ng comelec is tantamount to cheating.

Here is my proposed computerized voting method:

1. Touch screen - andyan na yung mga mukha sa screen ng mga iboboto at pipindutin na lang, kapag final na decision mo, just press the GO key.

2. Every booth has a display na makikita ng viewing public at ng voter, kung sino binoto nya, after sya mag press ng GO key, makikita nya at ng public kung sino sino mga yun, tigilan na ang anonymous voting, pu**** *** dahil dyan kaya nadadaya tayo eh, ano ba kinakatakutan natin sa pagboto?!

3. Yung total votes na mag increment every press ng GO ay nasa malaking board rin per precint, sa puntong yan, mahihirapan ang dayaan.

4. Yung identity ng tao pag punta nya sa booth to cast his/her booth makikita sa screen above the booth, so kita ng mga tao kung sino sya after nya mag-undergo sa finger print scan or retinal scan.

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Pero ang effect nito ay mas titindi ang hindi makakaboto, you may ask why, kasi the night before the elections, yung places na against sa isang politician, ginagwardyahan na yun para di makalabas ang mga tao, instead na bayaran nila para iboto sila, ang ginagawa nila, bayaran nila para wag na lang bomoto.

Yung implementaion ng automated voting natin ay based sa principle ng board exam natin na mark the circle then scan the ballot, how sure ba tayo na yung ini scan na kandidato ay tama?

Sa end user part pa lang ng terminal ay pwede mo ng dayain, how sure tayo na kapag pinasok nung voter yung papel nya ay di mareject nung machine at mag-end lang naman ulit sa manual counting ng vote?

11 Billion ang budget dito right? 20% automatic SOP ito umpisa sa itaas then bawat dadaanan ng project na ito ay babawas ng 20% pa, so sa tingin nyo, ma-implement kaya ito ng may kabuluhan?

Ito ay isang MALAKING KALOKOHAN lamang.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 08:11:15 AM »

Maraming methods para makadaya, and computerized voting will not eliminate the threat.

Maraming mangmang na pinoy, na pag narinig automated at computerized ibig sabihin ay secure, di madadaya at mabilis. Most of us are technical person here, alam natin na minsan mas maigi pa i-manual kaysa idaan sa automation kasi mas gumugulo lang lalo pa pag kinakapa pa lang natin.

Believe me, I worked in a gov't. agency before na kapag tinanung mo ang management side ng gov't. kung bakit ganun ang design at mga equipments na gagamitin ay ikaw pa papagalitan dahil napag-usapan na raw yun, kahit alam mo na kalokohan lang dahil di tatagal in the long run ang implementation at masyadong overpriced!
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2009, 09:26:39 AM »

as i have said before this country is infected with "moronic plaque" hehehehe.. the higher your position in the government the less common sense you have and the more stupid you get hehehehe..

naalala ko tuloy yung movie sa HBO about dun sa Al Gore - George Bush election recount sa Florida.. what a mess hehehe..
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2009, 10:42:08 PM »

i go for the automated voting ,

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2009, 10:37:35 AM »

In your opinions ano bah ang dapat nating gamitin in the time of voting dito sa pinas?

kung manual voting that we experience already and we saw what happened?

or

tong Computerized Voting na ginagamit sa US pero dito hindi pa?

same lng bah ang mangyayari na madadaya parin?

hmmmm... Huh Roll Eyes Grin


as you've said po in my opinion lng ahh..

wala akong pipiliin  Grin
ewan ko lng ah.. pero ako since 18 ako d ako ng try na mag vote kung san man kht sa baranggay or national elections.

due to:

1] para skn pakitang tao lng ang botohan eh
2] nka predict na kung sino mananalo.. sila sila din ang nakaka alam kung sino mananalo
3] mag kakadayaan pa din kahit manual or computerized.
4] kahit nga gameguard kaya i hack eh yan pa kayang computerized voting? [maraming magaling na hacker]
5] magpapagod lng ako wala naman ngyayari sa pilipinas.. no bearing din ang botohan. ngdadayaan lng!
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2009, 04:45:15 PM »

automated po pra masbilis ang dayaan joke  Grin in reality talagang kahit anong method pa ang voting system natin ganon parin ang resulta my panalo at my talo

in my view, honesty voting lng, ok na sana wala ng mandadaya

kaya lng ang babaw na talaga ng pinoy ngayon bihira na lng ang tapat sa bayan sa sarili at sa kapwa Grin

batas ng dyos palng dna sinosonod batas ng tao pakaya!

pero for me automated na pra medyo bumilis na ang systema nag bilangan madaya man oh hinde
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2009, 12:41:46 PM »

Manny Pacquiao v.s. Hatton?..sa tingin ko, panalo si Pacquiao..hehehe...buti pa wala ng voting!..para wala mandaya..lol.....kung gusto man nila mawala ang manual voting dahil gusto gamitin ang computerized or automated voting,,,,,buti pa unahin nila mawala ang mga mandaraya...lalo na si almost!!!hahahhaha
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2009, 07:38:02 AM »

Manny Pacquiao v.s. Hatton?..sa tingin ko, panalo si Pacquiao..hehehe...buti pa wala ng voting!..para wala mandaya..lol.....kung gusto man nila mawala ang manual voting dahil gusto gamitin ang computerized or automated voting,,,,,buti pa unahin nila mawala ang mga mandaraya...lalo na si almost!!!hahahhaha

mandaraya c almost? bakit mo nmn nasabi yan existing_evil? nakita mo dinaya nya boto nya? he3...
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2009, 04:34:00 AM »

can anyone help me.. gmgwa kc ko ng research paper about manual vs automatic voting... my npanuod ako pero d ko npanuod ng maayos kc sa net ko lng npnuod  sa live internet tv...  i think thats a good source pero wla ako mkuhanan ng copy un mano mano o auto c kim atienza un host kgbi nov 15.
help nmn... to finish this paper.. thnx
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2009, 04:36:48 AM »

my contact b kau n pde ko mkuhanan ng video n un??
thank you so much if u could help
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