Bakit walang board exam ang COE?

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Let me share my views on the inquiries posted.  If you will analyze those professions which have board exams, you will arrive that these are initiated by professional boards.  These professional boards are mandated with respective Republic Acts.  I believe that the main reason why there is no COE board exam in the Philippines is that there is no active organization/individuals/lawmakers who will make the initiative to draft the law.  A law before it is passed will undergo numerous deliberations in the Congress, Senate and finally to be signed by the President of the Republic of the Philippines.  All professions can have its own board exam provided that there will be an enabling law which mandate the professional board. The fast pace of technology is not a reason for not having a COE board exam.  Board exam is designed to test the knowledge and skills regarding a specific profession focusing more on foundations, theories and practices. For COE, this includes computer, microprocessor and network architectures, logic circuits design and implementaion, hardware and software theories, etc. 

Afterall, the absence of board exam in COE has its advantage.  You can automatically place the acronym "Engr." before your complete name once you graduated the course, similar for Industrial Engineers.  This practice is prohibited for those who have board exams such as CE, ME, EE, etc.
But if you want to test your ability pertaining to COE, go for vendor certifications like MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, A+, RHCE, etc.  These are examinations given by private companies which deal mostly on current applications and practices of COE/IT.  Once certified, you will increase your chance to be employed since these IT certifications are very in-demand in workplaces.

The field of ECE is related to COE however, the professional board of ECE has defined the competencies/curriculum/subjects which are required to be taken by a student to qualify for the board examination in ECE.  Try to search the IECEP website for more details.

seconded...

[Cute_Worm_1983]

parang ding Industrial engineer walang board exam. kaya tawag sa kanila "Instant engineer"   

[ef - el - ay - pee]

^that would be very unfair to CoE's!

this can be thought of that a license is needed for you to become an engineer, which is nonetheless not the case.
Ung dean namin, EE siya pero pang CoE yung ginagawa niya (Digital Signal Processing). Nung tinanong sya nung parents kung bakit walang CoE, she simply said na di kailangang mag board ang CoE. true, walang profesional grups ang CoE, pero mahirap kasing i-quantify, if ever, yung topics na kailangang alam ng CoE, unlike ECE and CoE. For example, yung CoE namin FPGA ang alam, VHDL, DSP, DLX, ARM7 etc. ang alam, yung ibang skuls naman ay similar sa ECE ang tinuturo.

[mikibihon]

i asked that same question to my professor before, just like what the others said, sabi nya dahil daw napaka-bilis kc magbago ng standards opted for coe..
unlike ece or ee na ung ohm's law noon ay ang parehong ohm's law paren ngyn..
pro sa coe, ang standards date na tulad na lng floppy, isa/eisa,  intel 8088, ngyn usb, pci at quad core na..
so kng may board man ang coe at kinuha mo to ngyn, malamang sa malamang ung mga pinagaralan mu nde na masyadong ginagamit after 5 or 10 yrs..
in my opinion, mas okei na after graduation ay umattend na lng tayo ng mga seminars or short courses para sa mga bagong technolgy para up-to-date paren tayo, kesa na magboard exam since magiiba dn naman ang standards in a matter of time..

[ef - el - ay - pee]

^very true

at dahil sa kawalan nito ng board ay pinilit akong magshift sa ECE from CoE, haaay......

[nayr]

halos lanht namn gnyan ung opinion eh,,,kc tlgang mbilis mgbago ung technology nowadays..kya wla tlgang board exam ung mga coe,,,sana lhat tayo mgang computer engineer someday.hehehehe..

[Aflift]

kasi poh my ECE na lahat naman about computer except  high level programming eh alam ng mga ECE eh kaya sila nalang pinagboard..............kaya kung kailangan ng mga magdedevelop ng COMPUTER ECE kukunin heheheh

[ef - el - ay - pee]

parang may bitterness dun ah...

well for one thing, CoE lang ang merong advanced digital design at advanced computer organization sa amin...hanggang basic computer organization lang ang sa ECEs...

[v3xat10n]

im a graduate of computer engineering. and i work as a computer system engineer in one company here in UAE. but no one calls me engineer in philippines just because of the fact that we dont have a board exam. most people call us "Computer Engineering" even if you're not doing the pen anymore. just like an underboard nursing graduate cannot be called a nurse unless she/he pass the board exam. According to PRC, computer engineering is not even a profession because its not regulated. And people are hesitant to put "Engr" before your name because your not "eligible" .
     i still remember when i applied in PGH/UP college of med, manila as an IT professional (SQL programmer, database adminastrator and network/hardware support) and i qualified for the position. later on, when i was about to submit all the requirements, they decided not to hire me because i dont have civil service eligibility and you are not "eligible" to work in a government agency. (even if you have CCNA, A+, MCSE). Civil service eligibility simply means you have to pass any exam from the government, its either a board exam or civil service exam. IT professionals (compEng, CompSci IT grad )dont have a place place in our society.
    There are a lot of bad and good sides of having a board exam for us. here are some examples in my own opinion:

pros: 1. having the chance to work in a government (permanently)
        2. Being recognized as a "real" professional.
        3. to have the guts to put your title before your name.

cons: 1. If you pass, that means you are eligible. And if you have already passed it and didnt practice it for about 5 years or more then you're out of luck. you are obsololete coz PL's and Computer technology keeps on emproving and changing. you may be called "civil service eligible" by passing the board exam but you are not really eligible of doing so. (did u get what i mean?) eligible by definination means capable of.. while "eligible" of working in a governement agency means passing at least 1 exam. (passing any exam from CISCO and/or Microsoft is still lame)

[florenz]

I got my COE degree last 1989, back then the course is really new, nobody really worries about board exams, etc...it doesn't really bother me kung may board exams or wala. It doesn't bother me too if they call me 'Engr 'or not. In fact, I've never put that title "Engr" before my name.
Been working as UNIX Systems Administrator for the last 17-years overseas... and technology is evolving very fast. Unless you keep yourself up-to-date you'll get obsolete. In computer world, technology is changing rapidly. Certification can help, but not a guarantee you can get a job.

[kb955-15]

parang ding Industrial engineer walang board exam. kaya tawag sa kanila "Instant engineer"   

wow "instant engineer", san k nkakita ng walang kahirap-hirap ika nga walang e4t n titulong ikakabit mo s unahan ng ung pangalan..hahay!

dapat cguro s mga engineering courses n walang board exam ay bago grumadweyt eh me certifications n lyk ccna, a+, mcse, etc. pra @lizt me bala n pgpumunta s giyera& cmpre civil service elibility kung plano mo namang pumazok s gov't service..

[v3xat10n]

heheheee... im just wondering kun matatawag bang social engineers ang mga hackers na gamit lang ay social engineering... i mean yung title......

[mr.Electro]

sa aking pagkakalam pwede rin kumuha ng electronics board exam ang mga coe provided na kukuha cla ng units ng comm. d ko lang alam yung rules nila don. like EE pwde rin cla kumuha ng ece board exam bsta mgtatake ng units ng comm. diba marami ng REE na nag ECE pa.

pwede ba isabay yung ece sa comp.e?? i mean comp.e ako ngayun? but plan ko every summer take nang ece units na hindi credited sa comp.e units...and do i have to take ALL ece subjects as a requirement in ece board exam??

[hajimeh]

malapit n!...they are working on for the board exam of CPE ...pero kung graduate n u... go to them and apply for the license ...no need for EXAM ....i think so

[eveready battery]

marami naman certifications sa IT ah?like MCSE,CNNA, etc. pwede sa mga COE dito.saka wala naman po kwenta yung ECE license pampakapal lang ng wallet saka valid ID lang siya like bank transactions. 

[ΔЅịMø]

wlang board exam cguro ang mga CoE kc kahit ipasok pa cla lahat sa work na pang CoE lang, hnd pa kc tau sapat dun.. kya may board ang ECE at EE, madame na kc cla... ung best of the best lang ang kukunin nla...

[Joshy]

On topic:
basta ang alam ko lang wala pang accredited professional org ang mga CpE....

At wala pa silang governing laws and ethics kaya wala silang boards...

Pero ayos lang yun.. ang mahalaga sa ngayon ay skills...

Dont know if my certification exam na ang mga CpE tulad ng mga IE...

[raianhc043]

Technology is forever learning, we are just taking the basics and it is up to us how to use the thing we've learned..i am a coe student to from AMA..
 

[Positron E+]

sa pagkakaalam ko, yung technology kasi ng computers ay mabilis ang pagpalit.. di ba parang kelan lang yung DDR na memory, tapos ngayon may DDR3 na e ilang years pa lang ang nakalipas. sobrang bilis tlga ng innovations kaya walang Board exam ang COE... biruin mo, 1st yr, may specific kang pinag-aaralan, tapos after 5 years, iba na naman yung bago... 

agree ko dito, ece stud ako pero kumukuha rin ako ng mga major subject ng comsice grabe sa hirap ang comscie pero wala silang board exam. mas madali pa sakin ng kaunti ang subject sa ECE

[Sgt. Keroro]

opinyon ko lng po...

kc indi nman tlaga mtatawag n png professional ang CoE eh...
mdaming khawig eh..tulad ng ComSci InfoTech ECE....