Bakit walang board exam ang COE?

[simplywel]

Bakit po walang board exam ang COE?
pwede ba magtake ng ECE board exam ang COE?

[beginner wan]

sa pagkakaalam ko, yung technology kasi ng computers ay mabilis ang pagpalit.. di ba parang kelan lang yung DDR na memory, tapos ngayon may DDR3 na e ilang years pa lang ang nakalipas. sobrang bilis tlga ng innovations kaya walang Board exam ang COE... biruin mo, 1st yr, may specific kang pinag-aaralan, tapos after 5 years, iba na naman yung bago... 

[paranz]

hindi ko rin alam 

[mArKhAo]

ala nmn comm ang coE ah.

[marcelino]

Eto yung pagkakaalam ko. THe role of PRC is to regulate the population of a certain profession. Sa tingin ko lang ha, di pa kailangang iregulate yung CoE kasi siguro, di pa ganun kadami. Di ko sigurado yan... walang basis! hehehe

May narinig akong pag-uusap na magkakaroon na daw ng board yung CoE. kaya hintay lang. hehehe

[dy7flt]

Ano ba yang computer, memory, ddr, sata, di ba electronics din yan!!!  Lahat naman ng field nag dedevelop every year lalo na comms, dahil pag walang development sa comms, wala yang computer nyo, hindi yan makapag internet.  At saka, pagdating sa board exam kaya nga may mga new technologies na lumalabas dahil dapat ang student ay updated rin, kaya nga may mga seminars at continuing professional education.  Saka, kailangan sa board, basic knowledge lang naman ng electronics, comms, math, sciences at computers kailangan.  Bakit, nag-iiba ba definition ng computer ngayon kaysa noon?  Yong memory ngayon di ba memory din yan noon?  may bagong technology nga lang tulad ng ddr.  Alam mo nga mga bagong technology pero kahit pag-pailaw ng flourescent unit (although sa electrical to) na napaka basic ay hindi natin alam, pagtatawanan lang tayo ng mga technicians.  Anong klaseng engineer tayo kung ganun!!  Tol, basic lang kailangan sa board.  About welding technology kasama sa electronics exam, kaso lang hindi ko napag-aralan kaya hindi ko alam kong tama yong hula ko na sagot.  Dapat isang course na lang tayo, Electronics Engineering na lang with different specialization such as computer network, electronics technology, communication, industrial at iba pa.  Pero sa board parepareho tayo lahat.  Wala namang cgurong problema dyan, di ba!!!
Kong may electronics ang taga ECE may electronics din naman sa COE.  Kong may logic circuit sa COE, may logic circuit din naman sa ECE.  Kong may data comms sa ECE may data comms din naman sa COE.  Magkapatid lang ang mga course na yan.

[xie]

Let me share my views on the inquiries posted.  If you will analyze those professions which have board exams, you will arrive that these are initiated by professional boards.  These professional boards are mandated with respective Republic Acts.  I believe that the main reason why there is no COE board exam in the Philippines is that there is no active organization/individuals/lawmakers who will make the initiative to draft the law.  A law before it is passed will undergo numerous deliberations in the Congress, Senate and finally to be signed by the President of the Republic of the Philippines.  All professions can have its own board exam provided that there will be an enabling law which mandate the professional board. The fast pace of technology is not a reason for not having a COE board exam.  Board exam is designed to test the knowledge and skills regarding a specific profession focusing more on foundations, theories and practices. For COE, this includes computer, microprocessor and network architectures, logic circuits design and implementaion, hardware and software theories, etc. 

Afterall, the absence of board exam in COE has its advantage.  You can automatically place the acronym "Engr." before your complete name once you graduated the course, similar for Industrial Engineers.  This practice is prohibited for those who have board exams such as CE, ME, EE, etc.
But if you want to test your ability pertaining to COE, go for vendor certifications like MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, A+, RHCE, etc.  These are examinations given by private companies which deal mostly on current applications and practices of COE/IT.  Once certified, you will increase your chance to be employed since these IT certifications are very in-demand in workplaces.

The field of ECE is related to COE however, the professional board of ECE has defined the competencies/curriculum/subjects which are required to be taken by a student to qualify for the board examination in ECE.  Try to search the IECEP website for more details.

[arkiose99]

sana mai board exam nalang ang coe para hindi na kami mahirapan sa aming thesis...heheh....

[andy_lecnah]

ang alam ko about coE kung bakit wala exam sa board dahil halos every month meron bago katulad ng pentium 4 ngayon meron na din pentium D,dual core at iba pa....yun ang sinabi ng guro ko sa una estudyante pa ako.....nag stop kasi ako dahil wala ____.

[? Oatmeal ?]

Eto yung pagkakaalam ko. THe role of PRC is to regulate the population of a certain profession. Sa tingin ko lang ha, di pa kailangang iregulate yung CoE kasi siguro, di pa ganun kadami. Di ko sigurado yan... walang basis! hehehe

May narinig akong pag-uusap na magkakaroon na daw ng board yung CoE. kaya hintay lang. hehehe

i agree po dito.....regulation po ng PRC ang ginagawa nila..kaya as of now..stay put lang po kayo...magkakaroon rin....kasi sa ECE halos same ng evolution..its not that computer lang ang mabilis sa COE,sa ECE ung comms madaming nagbabago pati concept..di naman as in monthly lets say yearly....madami naman pong magazine about this one same as sa COE...yun lang po masasabi ko...

[dy7flt]

ang alam ko about coE kung bakit wala exam sa board dahil halos every month meron bago katulad ng pentium 4 ngayon meron na din pentium D,dual core at iba pa....yun ang sinabi ng guro ko sa una estudyante pa ako.....nag stop kasi ako dahil wala ____.

But this is not enough reason na wala ng board ang COE. Pentium 4, Core 2 dou, Core 2 quad, at kung ano-ano pa, di ba processor lahat yon.  Definition ng processor noong 486 pa at definition ng processor ngayon core 2 quad na ay nagbago ba?  Kong nagbago man, dapat pati COE na course ay alisin na dahil buwan buwan pabago-bago definition nyo.  Kong ganun pa rin ang definition although may mga bagong technology from 486 to core 2 quad, dapat may board exam kayo.

[tubemaster]

if im not mistaken, db my professional org na ang mga IE and dat is the PIIE-phil institute of industrial engineers (if im not mistaken) and yet sila din wala ring board exam db.
i think the reason for coe not having their professional exam is dat technology are changing; so fast that the board (if ever there will be) would be experiencing difficulty of constantly changing the sets of questions in the database. wid ece, technology changes of course but not that fast as in coe, say for example the case of vacuum tubes, before, vacuum tubes are included in the database but when it started to be phased out by semiconductors, the board decided to delete them already.if i remember it ryt, one of our reviewer in CASTRO b4 (engr fermin castro) told us

[tubemaster]

pahabol....

ang alam ko meron na ding professional org ang CoE. PHICES-phil institute of computer engineers and yet ala sila professional exam db..

[rdpzycho]

magkakaroon na rin ata sila ng exam...marami na rin sila e...

Manufacturing Engineering wala ring exam...pero eto siguro dahil konti pa lang ang nag-offer ng Manufacturing Engineering dito (DLSU lang ata)...

palagay ko ang reason nito dahil ang work nila mas related to smaller scale (in the sense of consumer), computer architecture...unlike Civil Engineers, Mechanical Engineers, Electrical Engineers, Electronics Engineers (in the communications field only) meron silang kailangan pirmahan for approval of some government institutions...whereas, yung Computer Engineer walang pipirmahan na ipapakita sa government at direct report lang lagi sa employer mo (same case with us Electronics Engineers in the Electronics field, useless license)...

para sa akin magiging useless lang (no offense meant) at magiging bagong source lang ng pagkakakitaan...sa tingin ko wala namang company na maghahanap ng license ng isang Computer Engineer...malamang ang hahanapin pa nila certifications yung tipong CCNA (nakakita na ako ng "who cares kung licensed ECE ka, I need a CCNA"), MCAD, etc...

just an opinion...

[dy7flt]

i'm not against certification exam.  Ako nga kahit licensed ECE ako, balak kong kumuha ng National Certification sa TESDA, it will be all about computers kukunin ko, dati noong NMYC pa meron akong 3rd class consumer electronics na certification.  Pogi points kasi pag may mga certification exam ka.  But having a license is in accordance with existing philippine laws particularly RA 9292.  May mga jobs kasi na only a license ECE can supervise not just anybody nor a COE kahit anong dami pang certification exam meron ka.  Alin ba ang mas mahirap ipasa, certification or board exam?  Kong sasabihin nyo certification ang mas mahirap bat takot kayong kumuha ng board exam na hindi naman pala mahirap.  Sa mga tinatayong building may kasama ng electronics plan (telephone, computer networks at iba pa), PEcE lang pwedeng pumirma at ECE lang pwedeng magsupervise, hindi CCNA 1, 2, 3, 4 certified IT professional "daw".  Eh, kong kayong COE magtake kayo ng electronics board exam (RA 9292) at pumasa kayo, aba! talo nyo pa kaming mga ECE graduate lang, kasi kayo may mga CCNA, MCSE at kong ano anong certification exam pa.  Saka, pwede na rin kayong magtrabaho sa broadcast industry.  Ako, being an ECE, Amateur Radio Operation at CISCO ITE 1 lang certification ko, ay! meron din pala akong 3rd class consumer electronics certification sa dating NMYC

[mhondyhondy]

sa aking pagkakalam pwede rin kumuha ng electronics board exam ang mga coe provided na kukuha cla ng units ng comm. d ko lang alam yung rules nila don. like EE pwde rin cla kumuha ng ece board exam bsta mgtatake ng units ng comm. diba marami ng REE na nag ECE pa.

[im_bullet]

hmmm...sapalagay ko napaka serious ng tanong na toh

d2 ko lng po nabasa mga ibang bagay tungkol d2:

http://www.gov.ph/forum/thread.asp?rootID=159440&catID=6

[torpedo212001]

COE rin ako. Nung Nov. 2007, nagseminar ang IECEP sa PTTC sa Pasay. Diniscuss dun yung bagong batas ng ECE, nakalimutan ko yung pangalan. ang pagkakaintindi ko dun pwedeng kumuha ng board exam ang "allied courses" ng ECE provided na macocomplete nila ung prescribed subjects ng ECE board.

5th year na ko ngaun, still thinking kung mag-aaral pa ko para sa mga kulang na subjects for ece board..

[paranz]

5th year na ko ngaun, still thinking kung mag-aaral pa ko para sa mga kulang na subjects for ece board..

kung license lang habol mo para makakuha ng magandang, hindi naman talaga kailangan.

it still comes down to SKILLS 

Spend majority of your time learning something new that is relevant to the industry.

[torpedo212001]

kung license lang habol mo para makakuha ng magandang, hindi naman talaga kailangan.

it still comes down to SKILLS 

Spend majority of your time learning something new that is relevant to the industry.

Before I enter college, first choice ko ang ECE, pero due to some influences nung panahon ko sa highschool, mas in-demand daw yung nasa field ng IT/comp. Kaya I took coe.  Hindi naman sa nanghihinayang, marami ring opportunities for coe ...pero I think it's not complete for me, gusto ko ring pumasok sa communications industry (like radio-tv broadcasting)