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« on: February 08, 2008, 10:04:52 AM »

If the speed of light has a constant value  1C = 3*10^8 m/s...

Do we have a constant value for the speed of sounds?
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2008, 10:45:57 AM »

wala kasi dependent ang speed of sound sa medium itself tapos sa temperature.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2008, 11:05:19 AM »

tama si sir electron... sa pagkaka-alam ko, mas mabilis ang tunog sa solid materials at pinakakulelat pag sa hangin sya dumadaan... ( paki korek po ko kung mali ako..)
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2008, 11:06:27 AM »

Tnx..
Nabasa ko lang sa news kahapon na isang aircraft sa london,i forgot the model no. that can travel 3X teh speed of sound. My concern is how they determine the speed of it?
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2008, 01:57:52 PM »

Tnx..
Nabasa ko lang sa news kahapon na isang aircraft sa london,i forgot the model no. that can travel 3X teh speed of sound. My concern is how they determine the speed of it?


through supersonic frequency...

read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic


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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2008, 05:09:09 PM »

If the speed of light has a constant value  1C = 3*10^8 m/s...

Do we have a constant value for the speed of sounds?

Hindi rin constant ang speed ng light, medium dependent rin.
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2008, 06:45:57 PM »

Hindi rin constant ang speed ng light, medium dependent rin.


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for further readings:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2008, 07:34:04 PM »

Na-alala ko tuloy yung question sa board exam. Kapag ang electromagnetic wave daw pumasok sa isang denser medium, ano daw ang property niya na nagbabago  ----> Frequency or Wavelength ?   Correct answer is Wavelength hehehehe..
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2008, 07:43:19 PM »

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Nabasa ko lang sa news kahapon na isang aircraft sa london,i forgot the model no. that can travel 3X teh speed of sound. My concern is how they determine the speed of it?
Merong device called a Pitot Static Tube protruding typically on the nose of aircrafts.. that measures the Airspeed from dynamic and static pressures..
Pero ngayon meron na ring GPS and radar that can measure the Speed of the aircraft relatively..
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2008, 09:53:42 AM »

nga pala just additional information...

NASA broke the record of fastest air vehicle last 2004...
ang tawag sa ginawa nila at Hypersonic Plane, it travels 10 times the speed of sound... MACH 10!

wow.. ano ba kasi ang gusto nilang gawin? mayaman kasi ang kennedy space center at maraming sponsors pa... siguro dito ang pinaglalaanan nito..

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2008, 10:47:02 AM »

Mach 10, ano kaya pakiramdam na ng piloto kapag ganyan ano? Siguro yung patutoy mo di mo mapatayo after ng Mach 10 hehehehe...
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2008, 02:04:09 PM »

Mach 10, ano kaya pakiramdam na ng piloto kapag ganyan ano? Siguro yung patutoy mo di mo mapatayo after ng Mach 10 hehehehe...

hindi ko rin mavisualize eh.. baka nga nadisintegrate yong p**** niya sa sobrang bilis...  Grin

maganda nga ang pagkagwa ng plane na yan.. kasi ung engine itself is the plane itself

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2008, 02:05:50 PM »

Baka rocket powered plane, hindi yung turbo jet.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2008, 05:10:29 PM »

Baka rocket powered plane, hindi yung turbo jet.
Tama po kayo sir. air-breathing rocket engine to make it complete.

parang jet engine din kaya nga lang ang jet engine hanggang Mac 3 to Mac 4 lang ang kaya kasi mabilis mag-init, pero ito it scoops oxygen while it is on the air kaya it doesnt need onboard oxidizer.

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2008, 09:51:50 PM »

Baka ito yung nag generate pa ng plasma sa surface nya para wala na halos air resistance.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2008, 10:50:41 PM »

Probably Jet engine yan.. RAmJet(basically just a flying Tube).. or yung modification ng RamJet for hypersonic travel.. called a scramJet(flying tube parin) pero modified yung internal shape to slow the airflow inside the tube to supersonic speed even though its flying at hypersonic speeds..

the aircraft needs to be flying already at supersonic speeds for ramjets to work.. so yung mga Aircraft that uses ramjet type engines needs another engine toaccelerate it to speed.. then switch to RamJets..

This would tyfically turbojets for planes that takeoff from ground or Rockets if the plane is experimental and is carried and droped at high altitudes.. where the air is thin turbojets will have a hard time starting..

kung maihi man sila sa suite nila.. prang space suite din yun may sariling toilet hehehehe
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 08:08:39 PM »

tumpak genome692002. scramjet nga po ito..

i will qoute the press release from nasa:

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Elvia Thompson
Headquarters, Washington
(Phone: 202/358-1696)

Keith Henry
Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va.
(Phone: 757/864-6120)

Leslie Williams
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June 20, 2005 RELEASE : 05-156  Faster Than a Speeding Bullet: Guinness Recognizes NASA Scramjet   NASA has been officially recognized for setting the speed record for a jet-powered aircraft by Guinness World Records.

NASA set the record in November during the third and final flight of the experimental X-43A scramjet (supersonic-combustion ramjet) project. The X-43A demonstrated an advanced form of air-breathing jet engine could power an aircraft nearly 10 times the speed of sound. Data from the unpiloted, 12-foot-long research vehicle show its revolutionary engine worked successfully at Mach 9.6 (approximately 7,000 mph), as it flew over the Pacific Ocean west of California.

The flight was the culmination of NASA's Hyper-X Program. Hyper-X, a seven-year, approximately $230 million ground and flight test program, explored alternatives to rocket power for space access vehicles.

This is the second world speed record earned by the Hyper-X Program. The first followed a Mach 6.8 (approximately 5,000 mph) flight in March 2004. Both records will be featured in the 2006 edition of the Guinness World Records book published in September 2005. The fastest air-breathing, manned vehicle, the SR-71, achieved slightly more than Mach 3.2. The X-43A more than tripled the top speed of the jet-powered SR-71.

NASA is interested in supersonic combustion scramjet technology, because the engines get their oxygen from the atmosphere. That allows for more airplane-like operations for increased affordability, flexibility and safety in ultra-high-speed flights and for the first stage to Earth orbit. Once a scramjet-powered vehicle is accelerated to approximately Mach 4 by a conventional jet engine or booster rocket, it can fly at hypersonic speeds, possibly as fast as Mach 15, without carrying heavy oxidizer, as rockets must.

A ramjet operates by subsonic combustion of fuel in a stream of air compressed by the forward speed of the aircraft. In a regular jet engine, fan blades compress the air. In a scramjet, the airflow through the whole engine remains supersonic.

The Guinness World Record certificate:

"On 16 November, 2004, NASA's unmanned Hyper-X (X-43A) aircraft reached Mach 9.6. The X-43A was boosted to an altitude of 33,223 meters (109,000 feet) by a Pegasus rocket launched from beneath a B52-B jet aircraft. The revolutionary 'scramjet' aircraft then burned its engine for around 10 seconds during its flight over the Pacific Ocean."

Related flight records:

The previous record for an air-breathing vehicle, but not an airplane, was held by a ramjet-powered missile, which achieved slightly more than Mach 5. The highest speed attained by a rocket-powered airplane, NASA's X-15, was Mach 6.7.

The Hyper-X program was conducted by NASA's Aeronautics Research Mission Directorate with the agency's Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. Langley was lead NASA center with responsibility for hypersonic technology development. The NASA Dryden Flight Research Center, Edwards, Calif., is responsible for flight research and testing.

For information about NASA's Aeronautics Research Mission Directorate programs, including Hyper-X, on the Internet, visit:
http://www.aeronautics.nasa.gov/
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2008, 02:19:48 AM »

sa pagkakaalam ko po its 331 m/s and additional .6 for every degrees celcius ng temperature....
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2008, 02:28:03 AM »

sa pagkakaalam ko po its 331 m/s and additional .6 for every degrees celcius ng temperature....

yea dats the way of defining a speed of sound..in a specified temperature....331 +(0.61 x Temp)

pero for a specific medium..iba rin..
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2008, 02:31:16 AM »

ah yah...korak..ehehehe
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