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« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2010, 08:57:25 AM »

Mga sisters, unless for the sake of leaning lang, mabubusi yan project. As I mentioned earlier, 12V max lang naman ang kailangan ng computer, plus and minus nga lang, why not use batteries all the way. if yo switch it, it will be only to get the diferrent voltages needed. At kung mahal bumili ng maraming batteries, eh, yung laptop na lang de batterya. yung fren ko, bumili sya ng inverter sa CDR King to charge the laptop pag na drain ang battery. sabi ni T.siopao, iwasan ng raw ang inverter dahil inefficient and of course gastos but to      do what you want to do will be very costly in parts and in time nyo.

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^ strict requirements kasi sa regulation ang main problem sir. some products can tolerate the 13V+ ng batteries at full charge, pero 'yung iba merong overvoltage protection na hindi sumisindi kapag naka-detect ng 12.8V (12.6V 'yung maximum voltage sa specification ng ATX).

http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/ATX12V%20PSDG2.01.pdf

magastos din gawan ng regulator 'yung ibang voltages kung manggagaling sa battery. 5V requires at most 18A and 3.3V requires at most 17A sa 250W ATX. then meron pang -12V.

'yung experiment includes changing only the primary winding (malamang interleaved copper straps ang kailangan), and then changing FET's plus a lot of headache. Grin mukhang available na lahat sa bin 'yung components ni sis woots 'yung mga kailangan.

based on experience, ang mahirap sa low voltage high current SMPS design is heat management. dami kasing nagbabagong parasitics.

Table 2. DC Output Voltage Regulation
Output            Range        Min.         Nom.         Max. Unit
+12V1DC          ±5%       +11.40    +12.00       +12.60 Volts
+12V2DC (1)     ±5%       +11.40    +12.00       +12.60 Volts
+5VDC             ±5%       +4.75      +5.00        +5.25 Volts
+3.3VDC (2)      ±5%       +3.14      +3.30        +3.47 Volts
-12VDC            ±10%      -10.80    -12.00       -13.20 Volts
+5VSB             ±5%       +4.75      +5.00        +5.25 Volts
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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2010, 09:46:19 AM »

sa pagrerepair ng mga SMPS wala naman akong nakikitang mahirap bukod don sa part ng pagrerewind ng transformer,

kungn nakapagrepair na kayo ng car amp, sa power supply section may toroidal na ferrite transformer, madaling irewind

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« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2010, 10:37:08 PM »

Wel mga ka-elabs,  PLAUSIBLE talaga i-convert ito

here's  initial test without rewinding the trafo  Grin Grin nagkamali pa ako ng regulator na nilagay 7808 instead of 7805 Grin

pero sana walang nasira. i got 4.41v from 12V terminal

at least at this point, pwede talagang gumana itong 12v input ATX.






hays makatulog na nga  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2010, 10:43:28 PM »

astig. keep it up. Grin
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« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2010, 10:48:25 PM »

pwedeng kutkutin yung mga hindi na gagagamiting trace para hindi masakit sa mata Cheesy
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« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2010, 10:49:06 PM »

Iba talaga nagagawa ng maraming parts at makakahuyan.
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« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2010, 10:53:13 PM »

Parang frequency injector yung nakahiwalay na circuit. Oscillator part ng inverter. Tama ba sis woots?
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« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2010, 10:56:39 PM »

Parang frequency injector yung nakahiwalay na circuit. Oscillator part ng inverter. Tama ba sis woots?

i bet mosfet driver yung apat na transistor na iyon Cheesy
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« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2010, 05:59:34 AM »

^tama driver nga. brand new ung transistors sa driver para sure hehehe
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« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2010, 04:59:58 PM »

UPDATE:

narewind ko na transformer, nabasag ko ung core nung una  Grin Grin Grin


heto testing agad, pinalitan ko na rin ng 5v regulator sa standby.


yan ang problem. mataas ung voltage out. tsk. di ko pa sinubukang lagyan ng load.

trafo: 8turns sa pri bale 16, tig 5turns sa 5 volts at additional 7 for 12v
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« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2010, 06:12:02 PM »

aus pogi! patigasin mo muna yung pagkakalagay ng cores sa pamamagitan ng pagbalot ng cello tape tapos ibabad sa insulation varnish saka ibilad, pag mataas parin madali ng magadjust sa feedback nyan may TL431
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« Reply #51 on: August 30, 2010, 06:37:06 PM »

i think i-adjust ko na lang feedback. mjo mahirap magbaklas sa 494 side, mjo magubat Grin Grin Grin

nag-shashutdown din kasi nag-oovervoltage.

salamat... Grin

tuloy ko ito mamya. hinay hinay lang hehehe Smiley
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« Reply #52 on: August 30, 2010, 06:57:09 PM »

Galing naman. Kunting adjust na lang, at testing paperworks na.  Grin

Tama dapat may varnish para macompact, kaya lang sa EI laminated core kapag mas kinocompress yung core naghihigh voltage lalo. Ewan sa ganitong core kung the same lang. O kaya bawas ng isang turn o ilan pa.
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« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2010, 07:05:25 PM »

kapag switching supplies ang pinaguusapan,

ung pulse width lang ang inaadjust. Grin
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« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2010, 09:54:43 PM »

kapag switching supplies ang pinaguusapan,

ung pulse width lang ang inaadjust. Grin

may effect sir yung pagkakadikit nung core sa pagiging precise ng supply Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2010, 10:03:20 PM »

^yup i know. were talking about sa ginawa ko

pero sa kaso ko investigate ko muna kung anu mali or may diperensya ung cirketo

pumutok primary nun eh. naovervoltage pa sa nag-wild na generator nun

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« Reply #56 on: August 30, 2010, 10:08:38 PM »

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« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2010, 10:17:52 PM »

Grin Cheesy Cheesy

di bale pyus lang katapat nyan Grin
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« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2010, 04:55:07 PM »

sis w00t.

bakit nagaaksaya kpa ng pagod sa board na yan? hehehe

gawa ka nalang ng bago or gawin nalang sa proto board...

TL494: needs buffering sa outputs to drive a MOSFET
SG3524/25: pwede rekta na....

its just a matter of using the generated output voltage for feedback (to regulate output)... Grin

another way para di mabiyak ang core habang binabklas:
#1> i-boil mo yung core, para mag soften yung padikit sa core/s
#2> kung may microwave oven, pwede din... 2mins @ high power.. lagay mo yang core sa isang baso na may tubig

habang mainit pa, gamitan ng cutter blade to pry open the core halves.. ingat! baka IKAW ang ma pry open Grin
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