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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2008, 01:56:56 AM »

Ah Yes!   One important thing!

Sir, thanks for the question.  Hindi po RoHS compliant ang STARTER MCU-EB8051-"2" Trainer Kit.  It was designed 3 years earlier than the RoHS implementation.   



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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2008, 02:07:55 AM »

ilang percent po ba ang discount kung student? kahit anong student po ba?
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2008, 08:17:16 AM »

^ ehehe siguro mas malaki ang discount para sa mga high-school student tulad mo, joseph, lambingin mo lang si DCore.

Huwag mo lang kulitin baka hampasin ka ng 8051 board hehe Grin
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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2008, 08:18:31 AM »

@nucleus
pag lumipat ka sa 8051 mamimiss mo si junebug
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2008, 11:11:40 AM »

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pag lumipat ka sa 8051 mamimiss mo si junebug

Ooopss, naku ha, may mami-missed pala a!

Knowledgeable in different  Architecture of MCU is a "plus" specially when you are applying for a R&D job abroad, Project Managers, etc.  The industry is driven by a Software point of view (due to less and less hardware).

Ok iyan, kasi, in reality sa job- as a software programmer you won't have much authority to decide which MCU you will use, you'll be driven by your Sales and Marketing or customer.  Say for example, napakahusay mo ng Zilog,  kaso mahal ang Zilog kaya ayaw ng boss,  gusto gamitin ay ang EMC (Ellan Microelectronics Corp.) MCU dahil napaka-mura ito, alternative ay Holtek MCU.   Sa isang project naman is PIC.....(example lang po iyan ha)

Kung wala ka experienced sa ibang MCU, talagang manganga pa ka.  At least you have a solid foundation on one MCU, and have a know how on other MCU.

As "8051 core" (no matter who is the manufacturer and/ or used in embedded applications)  is still widely used in products up to date, it is but natural to have a good understanding of this type of MCU - kaya naman  inuna ito as Trainer Kit and really voted to work on it over other MCU Architecture.

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« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2008, 12:37:52 PM »

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pag lumipat ka sa 8051 mamimiss mo si junebug
bakit ko naman mamimiss di ko na naman sya papaalisin sasamahan mo ko lang ysa ng kalaro sa ganun mas magiging masaya pa siya Grin
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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2008, 12:52:38 PM »

pano po ang pagorder nito? parang gusto ko ng isa.hehe para may laruan ako sa bahay.
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« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2008, 01:15:26 PM »

Pakipost ng price.
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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2008, 02:23:00 PM »

hi po pwede po bang malaman kung saan makakabili nyan gusto ko po para matuto ako malapit na po kasi thesis ko please thanks po
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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2008, 02:31:27 PM »


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Try mo e-gizmo or alexan.
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« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2008, 03:02:08 PM »

Try mo e-gizmo or alexan.

Hi, I PM all who asked for the price, where to avail it and how to avail it.

Sir, you won't be able to find my Trainer Kit (STARTER MCU-EB8051-"2") with Alexan and e-gizmo.

Actually, I offer my Trainer to Alexan in 2004, 2005,2006 and again in 2007 ---  kaso deadma sila sa akin, instead, nag-released sila ng almost the same platform - non complete package, its not really a DIY Learning kasi sa mga Seminar nila which cost 6,500php ka tuturuan.  This early 2008, I again offer them to spread out my Trainer since they have the capacity and capability, they were known in the industry -- dead ma pa rin sila,  oh, ano pa magagawa ko?   

I have gone through DECS, TESDA, CHED, DOST, Alexan Commercial  and othe sector of government like DTI asking what kind of support they can extend to me to accellerate the Technology in the field of Electronics and MCU Programming since i have the capability (at that time
) to acquire such advance technology - aba dead ma rin sila -- from 2003 to 2008.  Kasi nababasa ko noon na mayroon support ang Government sa mga individual and company that boosting the education - mali ata ang channel ko, but for 5 years? oh!

In short, sa amin lang makukuha ang Trainer Kit na ito.

Thanks for those Technical and Vocatinal school, Universities and Colleges who supporting me (UB, AMA, STI, TUP and a University in India) -  its them keeping me running and supporting me, giving me idea and power to move on, Thanks to ATMEL USA for his unparallel Support.

But.... 2nd quarter of 2008 --- I find this you guys --- here,  this gonna be a turning point.
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« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2008, 03:02:28 PM »

meron po kayang isang kit nun dun hmmm
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« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2008, 03:06:18 PM »

im from STI po hmmmm ako di ko dinededma po yung inyo gusto ko po talaga lalo na ngayon nalaman ko pong suportado ka din ng school ko buti naman po
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« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2008, 03:27:50 PM »

Hi, I PM all who asked for the price, where to avail it and how to avail it.

Sir, you won't be able to find my Trainer Kit (STARTER MCU-EB8051-"2") with Alexan and e-gizmo.

Actually, I offer my Trainer to Alexan in 2004, 2005,2006 and again in 2007 ---  kaso deadma sila sa akin, instead, nag-released sila ng almost the same platform - non complete package, its not really a DIY Learning kasi sa mga Seminar nila which cost 6,500php ka tuturuan.  This early 2008, I again offer them to spread out my Trainer since they have the capacity and capability, they were known in the industry -- dead ma pa rin sila,  oh, ano pa magagawa ko?   

I have gone through DECS, TESDA, CHED, DOST, Alexan Commercial  and othe sector of government like DTI asking what kind of support they can extend to me to accellerate the Technology in the field of Electronics and MCU Programming since i have the capability (at that time
) to acquire such advance technology - aba dead ma rin sila -- from 2003 to 2008.  Kasi nababasa ko noon na mayroon support ang Government sa mga individual and company that boosting the education - mali ata ang channel ko, but for 5 years? oh!

In short, sa amin lang makukuha ang Trainer Kit na ito.

Thanks for those Technical and Vocatinal school, Universities and Colleges who supporting me (UB, AMA, STI, TUP and a University in India) -  its them keeping me running and supporting me, giving me idea and power to move on, Thanks to ATMEL USA for his unparallel Support.

But.... 2nd quarter of 2008 --- I find this you guys --- here,  this gonna be a turning point.

Alexan has their own RnD.  Don't expect too much from DOST, they have their own ASTI, but to tell you, wala binatbat yung gawa nila sa gawa mo.

Btw, you offered me price, pero medyo di ko mintindihan yun packages.

Pwede pakidetail with pics kung ano mga kasama.

Mas maganda rin siguro kung post mo na lang dito yung product mo and gagawin ko sticky.
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« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2008, 03:34:12 PM »

(UB, AMA, STI, TUP and a University in India)

Taka lang ako, nakuha nyo ang AMA, di ba they have their own RnD?
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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2008, 03:06:41 AM »

 Kiss mga former friends in the industry ang nag-refer... 

Some company in the Cavite processing zone got some just for a demo of MCU and as a know how training to their Engineers, other for trial or curiousity.... some comeback to order,yung iba hindi na.  Well, mga student parin ang pinaka-marami na gumagamit - and it served its purpose "for those who want to Learn 8051 MCU programming and its architecture with zero background".

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Yes,  iyong naka-package na libro ay Assembly Language ang discussion.  It is Assembly po kasi dito mo talaga mai-intindihan ang MCU lalu na sa memory map,  registers, RAM, etc. 

Pattern na lang na ganito ang Learning Style na gagawin (ko sana, kaso di pa nagawa)  --- Let's do  "A B C D"....

Assembly - -  BASIC  -  C Language   -  Drawing   (mayroon na Pascal kaso di popular).   The ABCD idea is, the function perform by Assembly, will be perfom  by BASIC in its code structure, C Language and Drawing.

Sa Assembly kasi, para kang naglalaro ng chess -- moving data from one register to the other at bago mo magawa na mag-manipulate ng data, kailangan malaman mo ang mga rules (addressing) kung paano mag-move ng data.  Gaya ng Chess, malaman mo muna ng rules kung paano lalakad ang King or Bishop bago ka makapaglaro ng Chess.

Kapag nalipat ka na sa Basic or C language, medyo hindi ka na masyado concern sa mga Registers, bit addressable area, RAM, etc - mas concern ka na sa Input / Output - kaya madali, maiksi at mabilis matapos ang program.

Ooops ano iyong Drawing?  Ang "ABC :  Assembly, BASIC, C  Languane Instruction ay isinusulat iyan tig-isa isa kung mag-program ka,  iyong "Drawing" parang gawa ka ng Schematic ng mga components or defined Systems  (parang Lab View) at ang IDE ang mag-generate ng program at compilation sa HEX code. 

Kahit na di ko pa nagawa ang ABCD (frankly) due to headbreaking job (3:05 am na trabaho pa huhuhu),  I believe you guys are resourceful and definitely, you will look for a better, easier, faster and funnier IDE.




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« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2008, 04:21:13 AM »

Ehem, naku, kulang tulog lang iyan, "Drawing" ahah, kung sinabi mo na lang na Graphical Base Language (Ladderwork) kumpara sa Text Base Language.  Nagiging Analog Core (Acore) ka na ata, di na Digital Core (Dcore).

Check Ladderwork by microSHADOW Research - Italy.  They updated to include the 8051 core and some ATMEL processor.  There is a freeware version for trial.

Puwede ba joke?  masyado siryuso usapan:
Dcol, ikaw uwi na, iwan mo Lab View ploglam, ikaw kanina  pa antay  'LOVE babe' mo, hehehehe

Ako, mayloon ABCD idea din, ako talaga oliginal nito.   ABCD - Ang  Bebot na Chinese ni Dcore, hahahaha,  ABCD iyan tutuo ibig sabihin, tlue mining.

Ako basa iyo mga post, malami gusto matuto ploglamming na sabi Dcore, pelo dapat iyo malaman ang ABCD.  Ito tlue mining kung ikaw paniwala kay Dcore.  ABCD - Ang Bayad sa Course ni Dcore, ito wala lible heheheehe

Ako ha, kayo usapan ATMEL8051, INTEL8051, Philips8051- ako, gusto usapan USD8,051  makaling na budyet papunta Bolakay saka makanda sa Cebu Plantation Bay.  Ako sila na ulo kagagawa ng ABCD ni Dcol, ako bigla tumanda, ako gusto muna lelax. 


Ako bigay tip, Ako natutu ploglam ABCD ni Dcol, ito:
'----------------------------------------------------------
' PROG_01                First Program
'----------------------------------------------------------
'Start of Program:   'Program Start Here
   P1 = 255            'Set Port 1 P1.1 ~ P1.7 to Logic 1
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« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2008, 05:43:56 AM »

;========================================================
; PROG_10       :               RUNNING LED
;========================================================
;
;PROGRAM DESCRIPTION:
;This program will turn on 4 LEDs at a time while other 4 LEDs are turned off.  Turn on pattern
;is 1st pattern= 10101010,  2nd pattern=01010101  :  1=turn off LED, 0=turn on LED
;
;
;
;HARDWARE NOTES :
;MCU type   :       ATMEL AT89S51  24PC
;Crystal       :       3.58 MHz Crystal
;I/O Port     :       Port 1 used as an Output to drive the LEDs
;LED Pin Conn   : 
;               :       Port1.0  (pin1)  LED_0
;               :       Port1.1  (pin2)  LED_1
;               :       Port1.2  (pin3)  LED_2
;               :       Port1.3  (pin4)  LED_3
;               :       Port1.4  (pin5)  LED_4
;               :       Port1.5  (pin6)  LED_5
;               :       Port1.6  (pin7)  LED_6
;               :       Port1.7  (pin8)  LED_7
;The Anodes of LED_0 to LED_7 are connected to a resitors of 560 Ohms then connect to +5D.
;All Cathodes are connected to pins 1 to 8 of the AT89S51 respectively.
;
;Variable Declarations :

LEDOUT   EQU     P1                     ;Port1 pins 1 to 8 of AT89S51


;=============MAINLINE====================================

                ORG     0H                     ;Program Execution starts here

START:      MOV     A, #10101010B   ;Initiate the 1st LED sequence :
                                                  ;10101010
                MOV     LEDOUT,A          ;Now, light 4 LEDs
           
                CALL    DELAY               ;This delay determines how
                                                  ;long the LED Light

                MOV     A, #01010101B  ;Initiate the 2nd LED sequence :
                                                 ;01010101
                MOV     LEDOUT,A         ;Now, light 4 LEDs

                CALL    DELAY              ;This delay determines how long the LED
                                                 ;Light   

                JMP     START              ;it will go to label START

;================SUBROUTINE  :  DELAY======================
DELAY:                                 
                MOV     R7,#100             ;Set R7 to loop 100 times after each R6
                                                   ;loop for 255 times
OLOOP:      MOV     R6,#255             ;Set R6 to 255
ILOOP:       DJNZ    R6, ILOOP           ;Decrement R6 by 1, if R6 is not equal
                                                   ;to "0" then go to label ILOOP
                DJNZ    R7,OLOOP           ;If R6 loops 255 times, decrement R7 by
                                                   ;1 and if R7 is equal to 0, it will exit
                                                   ;DELAY and go back to the Main
                                                   ;Program. If R6 is not equal to 0, then
                                                   ;ILOOP
                RET                              ;Return to the Main Program
;========================================================

END                                     ;This is the end of the program which will
                                          ;instruct the Assembler to stop assembling the
                                          ;source file.


;++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
;
;Distribution Policy:
;     --------------------
;       All 8051 PROGRAMS in package with the STARTER MCU-EB8051-"2" MicroController
;       Trainer Kit contained in the CD ROM.  The usage of this program is described
;       in details in the User's Guide : my8051 VOL. 2 MicroController Trainer Kit
;       the ATMEL AT89S51 ISP Microcontroller.
;
        You may use, copy and distribute it FREE OF CHARGE under the following
;       conditions:
;
;       1. For the use with the STARTER MCU-EB8051 Trainer Kit-"2"
;       2. No changes on the original source file.
;       3. Must not be sell for profits.
;       4. Must not use for other similar Trainer Boards.
;       5. Exceptions are only possible with a written permission of the author.

;Implementation:
;       All 8051 PROGRAMs in package with the STARTER MCU-EB8051-"2" Trainer Kit have been
;       developed with:
;
;       Acebus 8051 IDE (demo version) - visit http://www.acebus.com
;
;       No formal process has been used during development, and there were
;       no efforts in quality assurance or quality management!


;Disclaimer:
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;       All 8051 PROGRAMs in package with the STARTER MCU-EB8051-"2' Trainer Kit
;       is provided as it is, without warranty of any kind.
;       The author will not be liable for any special, incidental, consequential,
;       indirect or similar damages for any reason in the use and mis-use of this
;       program.
;
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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2008, 11:56:55 AM »

Alexan has their own RnD.  Don't expect too much from DOST, they have their own ASTI, but to tell you, wala binatbat yung gawa nila sa gawa mo.

Btw, you offered me price, pero medyo di ko mintindihan yun packages.

Pwede pakidetail with pics kung ano mga kasama.

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medyo magulo nga talaga... paki explain pa po ng konti.
pero maganda nga... at since, nagC kaagad ako sa PIC. marahil ito ang pagkakataon na mapag-aralan ko ang assembly. nwei, ang importante ay ang masanay ako.
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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2008, 12:08:14 PM »

meron din C sa 8051. Grin

pero kailangan ko rin mag-aral ng assembly dahil guto ng boss ko assembly yung gawin ko. siya kasi mag-maintain, e assembly lang ang naiintindihan niya. Grin
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