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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2008, 09:40:35 PM » |
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For the next few years our kids may ask us advice on what courses to take- definitely your answer will be based on your experience --- and hopefully w/ the help of this post.
Considering my experience w/ COE -i may not advice them to take the course again. And looking on some of the posts here, i may recommend them to take EE instead.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2008, 11:58:11 PM » |
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Considering my experience w/ COE -i may not advice them to take the course again. And looking on some of the posts here, i may recommend them to take EE instead. [/quote]
I did few Career talks in one of the engineering School, I found out that most of the students don't have the exact reason/s why they are taking their course. Others said because "my Dad says so" or "kasi bigatin ang dating"..or so and so! After graduation they're not sure which way to go, maintenance, manufacturing, QA, sitting in front of the table for paper works, etc...
I agree, giving advice to our kids can help them find themselves...
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2008, 04:04:42 PM » |
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well said bro! 
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2008, 12:20:46 AM » |
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I agree that depende sa timing / place and location.... COE si ako, so I can olny speak about COE.. I think maraming oppurtunity sa COE... ya'll find it in almost all industry.. after graduation, ya get yar ticket.. then afterwards depende kun saan ka mapadpad at kung anong gusto mong gawin.. deskarte muna, I learn da skills set para to get the job done through the actual experience..
* System administrator * Network administrator * 1 st, 2nd, 3rd level support * Performance capacity testing * System integrator (middle ware) * Programmer (lots of programming languages that are used by big company) * IT Manager * J2EE / .NET Architect * System engineer * system analyst * consultant / technical specialist * Robotics... * Then yun talagang Computer Engineer.. ya design chips / computer.. * etc...
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2008, 07:48:47 AM » |
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my thoughts on the three courses..
EE - during my college years, the number of students who enroll under this course decrease year after year. so, in the next few years the demand for EEs will increase. EEs has less load than the other two courses too (but this does not generally mean its a lot easier).
ECE & CoE - ECEs cover a more broad scope of electronics while CoEs generally focus on computers. ECEs have licenses and this can play a vital role. But CoEs can take the ECE board too.
but what the heck.. i'm an ECE and i'm doing an ITs job.. tsk tsk tsk
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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2008, 03:31:30 PM » |
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all things being equal, ECE talaga.. btw, sa abroad wala talaga ECE and COE, EE lang meron.. ang ece/coe sa abroad is BSEE Major in Electronics, BSEE Major in Communication, or BSEE Major in Comp. Engg. And i believe, that the reason they dont honor our engg graduates is not because wala ECE or COE doon sa kanila. The reason is mahina lang talaga engg education system. Based on their recruiting experience, yung mga Electronics engr from pinas hindi alam maggamit ng transistor. sad but true. Karamihan sa mga graduate natin, tester lang ang alam gamitin and masking tape lang pag PCB design  if you want to work abroad, in my opinion what matter to this foreign employers, is SKILL. Specialized Skill. Your school background is somehow irrelevant. If you have specilaized skills, your good.
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2008, 10:44:12 PM » |
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Anu ba course ni Bill GATES??? heheheh 
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2008, 12:11:50 AM » |
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Anu ba course ni Bill GATES??? heheheh  caregiver yata 
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2008, 01:51:38 PM » |
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pwede EE, Dto amin Meralco lake sweldo! kaya lang mahal din kuryente nio! hehehe!
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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2008, 08:28:00 AM » |
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May kaibigan ako na COE developer ni Bill Gates, six figure in USD/year, yung isa na na Canada halos ganon din six figure din, so di nga kilala ang COE ano. Kahit anong kurso kung talagang pagigihan mo mararaing mo din yan, hehehe. Sa BC, Canada meron tinatawag na APEGBC, you can take the exam to be a member parang Board natin sa pinas, but this is not a guarantee to land you a good Job. Nasa experience pa rin tinitignan, kahit PHD ka pumasok sa isang Company at say 100K/annum pero kung di mo naman ma meet yung expectation nila, babawasan yan, hehehe.
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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2008, 03:39:33 PM » |
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kung ang basis ng pinaka OK e ung trabaho ng mga graduate ng COE, EE at ECE, parang mahirap madetermine dahil mas malimit base na sa tao un hindi sa course na kinuha nya. kung base naman sa curriculum/academe, computer is application of electronics, and electronics is part of electrical engg. kung titingnan naman natin ang batas sa pilipinas, wala akong alam na batas tungkol sa computer engineering per se. ung industry or company na ang business or product e tumutukoy sa computer field, electronics and communications field at electrical field, pwede rin siguro itong maging factor. sa industry naman nagdedepend ung mga magka-college e. tulad sa smart, globe, sun, pldt, abscbn, gma, intel, meralco, transco, hp, ibm, dell, etc... karamihan ba sa mga employee nila COE,ECE or EE? sa mga schools and universities, alin ba may pinakamalaking population? so, these are the few things that i think we need to consider para malaman ang pinaka OK..
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2008, 07:47:32 PM » |
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ECE ako working as power elec design engineer to date,tawag sa amin EE parin,i've been working for 5 years pero trabaho ko pang EE/ECE(1st job-Electronics Design Engineer,and 2nd job-Electrical Design Engineer).Para sa akin EE at ECE pareho lang,depende lang in terms of power ratings ng expertise mo.
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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2008, 08:42:12 AM » |
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kung ang basis ng pinaka OK e ung trabaho ng mga graduate ng COE, EE at ECE, parang mahirap madetermine dahil mas malimit base na sa tao un hindi sa course na kinuha nya. very true...
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« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2008, 12:55:04 AM » |
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pede bang makisawsaw ang di graduate? hehe.. um, my prof once mentiond stuffs bout foreign reciprocity... kya daw di honored ang license ng ece sa ibang bansa is that mas mahaba ang education sa knila... basically sa africa palang ata they have grade 7 and 6 years i blv in hi skul. but same length of time spent in college. same goes to other countries. they believe that we are not trained long enough para mahonor ang license natin sa country nila. also, they look at our curriculum pag dating sa college. mas marami ata units nila. aun po.
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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2008, 02:09:10 AM » |
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sa labas, electronics engineers lang talaga..
ang ECE kc.. parang dalawang courses na pinag-isa.. separate kc dapat ang electronics at communications.. kung tutuusin.. dapat 10 years nasa college ang mga ECE.. 5 para sa electronics major at 5 naman para sa communications..
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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2008, 02:20:53 PM » |
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OK ang thread na to ah...
comment lang ako..
yung bawat courses na yan ay may ginagampanan na bawat aspeto... pero eto ang lapses diyan, yong Educational system natin hindi pa talaga masyadong naplantsa ang mga dapat pag-aralan ng bawat kurso... ang daming mga fields na nag-ooverlapse sa mga kurso na yan...
ang COE- may microprocessor and microntroller subjects ang EE- ganun din ang ECE- ang daming mga EE fields na tinatackle din...
-the thing is bakit di natin sulitin ang lahat, ang debate ngayon sa states ay ang tinatawag na "Physics ENgineering"... eto ang solution sa mga overlapse na mga fields na yan...
OO mahirap na maphase out/dissolve ang mga kurso na yan.. kasi nakagawian na eh... pero come to think of it... ang first 2 years ng Philippine educational Engineering systems/courses ay completely elementary principle at lahat ng courses [COE,EE at ECE] na yan nagtatackle niyan...
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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2008, 07:14:28 PM » |
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Hi to all,
Well i finished first 2 year course in Electronics Technician then after that i shifted it to BSECE.
ECE is a very vast field among on its sub-field of discipline like Audio/Sound, Industrial Electronics, Instrumentation, Controls, Computers, Broadcasting, Telecommunications, Avionics and Data Commu- nications Engineering.
We know Science and Technology? Well all Engineering are all applied science (Technology).
In the case for COE and the rest of its subfield. Electrical and Electronics is our backbone if we go back to our Physics subject. Those two are discussed how there theory starts.
What is better? EE, ECE, COE? First of all EE here in Philippines has a little difference compare other countries. The books we rely on as our class textbook whose authors are under EE faculty members.
In the case of Eng'g. curriculum here. EE has a limited field unlike in the U.S, Canada and Europe. If you are keen on HV AC/DC, Powerline, Controls, Instrumentation and Power Plant? Take EE!
See i mentioned Controls and Instrumentation? Its the subject of ECE to!? Because they are Electronics!
ECE has two majors and we all know that! It can adopt on any electronics and communications in general! Its up to the ECE graduate where to focus. In Communications you should be a ECE board passer .As a matter of fact ECE was there whenever a job openings is open for Power Electronics, Computers, Programmers and I.T!
COE is a sub-field of Electrical and Electronics. It was created for the reasons of specialization maybe because vastness of ECE field. So if you like Hardware/Software and dealing one of them or both? Depending on the level? Take COE instead!
For you to know if you forgot? Computer Science Course was created first even before the time of COE and Degree in I.T!
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« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2008, 09:11:11 PM » |
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OK ang thread na to ah...
comment lang ako..
yung bawat courses na yan ay may ginagampanan na bawat aspeto... pero eto ang lapses diyan, yong Educational system natin hindi pa talaga masyadong naplantsa ang mga dapat pag-aralan ng bawat kurso... ang daming mga fields na nag-ooverlapse sa mga kurso na yan...
ang COE- may microprocessor and microntroller subjects ang EE- ganun din ang ECE- ang daming mga EE fields na tinatackle din...
-the thing is bakit di natin sulitin ang lahat, ang debate ngayon sa states ay ang tinatawag na "Physics ENgineering"... eto ang solution sa mga overlapse na mga fields na yan...
OO mahirap na maphase out/dissolve ang mga kurso na yan.. kasi nakagawian na eh... pero come to think of it... ang first 2 years ng Philippine educational Engineering systems/courses ay completely elementary principle at lahat ng courses [COE,EE at ECE] na yan nagtatackle niyan...
-creedcradle sinabi mo pa masyado n kase tayong napapahuli sa ibang bansa pagdating sa EngRng educational system natin lalo n yung curriculum, karamihan kasi sa mga engineering schools dito sa bansa may mga subjects n di nmn dpat isama sa curriculum ng bawat engineering courses gya ng ECE, EE, and COE yung mga subjects na tulad engrNg mechanics at strength of materials at yung mga Engineering MATH subjects n halos pang Civil EnGrng ang mga tinatackle. Dpat Kase NAgbabago ang ating curriculum particular sa EE, COE, at ECE at ska habang nasa 1st year at 2nd year p lng dpat yung mga topics n basic sa ECE, COE at EE n dpat ang tinatackle eh. Palibasa kase mas nakapokus lng yung Curriculum sa Board exam eh at hindi sa tunay n dapat taglayin n mga skills at knowledge n dpat maacquired ng graduates ng ECE,COE at EE.
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« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2008, 01:38:44 AM » |
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sinabi mo pa masyado n kase tayong napapahuli sa ibang bansa pagdating sa EngRng educational system natin lalo n yung curriculum, karamihan kasi sa mga engineering schools dito sa bansa may mga subjects n di nmn dpat isama sa curriculum ng bawat engineering courses gya ng ECE, EE, and COE yung mga subjects na tulad engrNg mechanics at strength of materials at yung mga Engineering MATH subjects n halos pang Civil EnGrng ang mga tinatackle. Dpat Kase NAgbabago ang ating curriculum particular sa EE, COE, at ECE at ska habang nasa 1st year at 2nd year p lng dpat yung mga topics n basic sa ECE, COE at EE n dpat ang tinatackle eh. Palibasa kase mas nakapokus lng yung Curriculum sa Board exam eh at hindi sa tunay n dapat taglayin n mga skills at knowledge n dpat maacquired ng graduates ng ECE,COE at EE. dapat talagang baguhin ang curiculum...
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« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2008, 08:46:23 AM » |
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the major subjects are fine, and i believe hindi lang talaga namamaximize ang mga ito. Kulang ng laboratory equipments as well as having incompetent instructors. 
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