Ano pinaka OK: COE or EE or ECE ?

[mikece]

kahit ano basta graduate at working...

[E^3]

Magandang araw mga Kabalin,

Lahat yan maganda mapa CoE,ECE,EE.

1) Simple lang naman yan kung iisipin natin sina Edison,Tesla , Maxwell,Einstein atbp
    di naman mga yan PRC license-pero kung aalisin mo mga achievement nila naku
     baka di natin ma compute yung mga  question sa PRC kasi yung iba o karamihan sila
    ang may gawa/akda.

2)Ngayun tungkol sa pag yayabang/pag mamalaki wala namang problema yan,pero ito
  sana ang pumasok sa mga kukute natin.
    [ECE]
   i) Hangang ata sa kasalukuyan ala pa tayong na la launch na rocket para mag hatid sa space ng
       transponder-ilista mo lahat ng mga License at di license na engr ng pinas nako aabot na po sa   space??
    [EE]
    ii) Hangang ngayun ala paring magawang hybrid na solar o ma innovate man lang na power
       generations, ki anong electric resources para sa mga rural at remote na lugar.
    CoE
    iii) Hangang ngayun di parin makagawa ng sariling patch/version para sa translation(tagalog) ng Linux   
     OS para sa libreng Software at  apps at malabo ng makagamit ng libreng sariling OS si Juan.
**
   eto po ay mga ilan ilang sa mga problema ng kung anong may ka kulangan sa implementation ang mga enhinyero ng Pinas.Sa opinyon at experiensya ko,ang  "ans: (a)  (b) (c) (d)" ay di sagot sakot anumang problemang nababangit
   
3)Kung gusto nyo malaman at masubukan ? mag CoE ka pakatapos mag ECE ka  at pakatapos mag EE ka
   pero di lang dapat lang puro Titulo?? e Practice mo.
 
4) Kapag cguro eto ngyari di na lang tayo mag papaligsahan sakung may lisensya tayo o wala
   sa kung anong enhinyero ang ntapos natin o may titulo tayo....sapagkat mga kabalin
    1) Hangat wala pang satellite transponder na gawa tayo sa space
    2) hangat maraming pang lugar sa pinas ang walang kuryente
    3)Hanggat marami pang di nakakahawak ng computer
    4) di pa libre ang SMS messages natin at ang dami pang SPAM
    5) ni wala pang completong Eng laboratory ang eskwelahan
    6) Kapag wlang mga R&D ang mga professor ng mga eskwelahan
    7) kakulangan ng screening sa  mga studyante
     
Eh di mag multiple choice na lang tayo,isama natin sa exam yung mga mag sasaka , mga mangingisda
yung tambay at yung mga di nakapag aral dyan..malamang papasa sila sa board exam natin
kasi mag pipili lang sila ng best answer at (a) (b) (c) (d)....di ba mas madali madami pang papasa sa board?

6) Cguro ang sagot sa tanong na "Ano pinaka OK: COE or  EE or ECE ? " ay eto " Naging Ok ba ang Pinas
sa mga COE,ECE at EE nya?


Salamat iyan po ay pananaw lamang at pambabahagi ng kuro kuro ..

Ang inyong lingkod.."Pilipinas Umasenso Ka!"

Practicing CoE,ECE,EE

[kelvinblank]

ang init dito, update ko lang kayo, yesterday, october 26, 2009, mapua institute of technology or mit ay dinalaw ng mga accreditors of abet. ung abet is parang pacucuoa pero ang abet is a U.S. organization and based sa narinig ko, if ang school mo ay accredited by abet, kalevel mo na ung mga US graduates specially ung mga katumbas nating ee,ece,coe sa states. hope eto na ang chance ng mga mapuan na maging lalong competitive outside the country.

[ef - el - ay - pee]

^ congrats!

[kelvinblank]

@^

balita ko sir positive ang feedback ng accreditors sa mapua ee-ece-coe. by the way, ung isang prof don kaibigan ko ang naginterview sa kanya na accreditor from abet is the one who develop zilog z80 microprocessor. 70+ na daw hahaha

[Google]

ang pangit lang ngaun sa mapua ginagawang diploma mill na pasok lang ng pasok ang pera

[kelvinblank]

@^

onga sir wala e iba na may ari ginawang business na din pati school

[E^3]

Magandang Umaga sayo kabalin,

ang init dito, update ko lang kayo, yesterday, october 26, 2009, mapua institute of technology or mit ay dinalaw ng mga accreditors of abet. ung abet is parang pacucuoa pero ang abet is a U.S. organization and based sa narinig ko, if ang school mo ay accredited by abet, kalevel mo na ung mga US graduates specially ung mga katumbas nating ee,ece,coe sa states. hope eto na ang chance ng mga mapuan na maging lalong competitive outside the country.

..Mabuti naman at kahit papaano ay mayroon tayong pangarap sa ganoong layunin...

Pero eto ang sagot ng inyong lingkod sa ganoong pananaw..

1)http://www.engineeringdegreeshelpline.com/engineering-universities/asia/
 ..sana man lang makasingit tayo dyan para naman di tayo kahiya hiya sa mga studyante ni uncle sam..

2)a) Kung merong quad or tri semester na sem sa isang taon ang ang eskwelahan
  b) at ang pagkuha ng diploma sa loob ng 2-3 years? samantalang ang banyagang eskwelahan
   ang 1 subject(major) aabot ng 2 sem?
   c)at merong 80% sa 92 milliion na tao ay lubhang may kahirapan sa buhay; papaano ang posibilidad na makakakuha ka ng mga potensyal na studyante sa eskwelahan?
...yan ba ay padamihan ng semester o pataasan ng matrikulasyon..

3) Kung sana maoobserbahan ,ang katayuan ng isang bansa ay proporsyon din sa kung anong antas
meron ang expertise ng kanilang mga enihenyero.
...cguro naman kundi sa 3rd ay nasa 4rth world country na tayo;Germany,US,Japan,china,UK,Russia,Finland,..meron pa at marami pang iba.. na ang katotohanan
  ay wala sa bilang ang Pinas...

4) Derechohin natin sa mag aaral.
   4.a) Sana ang enghinyero ay di lang puro face-lifting sa kanyang lugar..at kung hindi isang ondoy lang ang katapat nyan..delubyo na sa kanyang nasasakupan..
   4.b) Sana kung ang isang asensadong mag aaral ay naniniwalang ang kanyang pinanggalingan paaralan ay kumpetitive di sana wala na sya sa Silicon Valley kundi nasa Manila na sana sya nagtatag ng R&D o opisina man lamang..

5)1) Hangat wala pang satellite transponder na gawa tayo sa space
    2) hangat maraming pang lugar sa pinas ang walang kuryente
    3)Hanggat marami pang di nakakahawak ng computer
    4) di pa libre ang SMS messages natin at ang dami pang SPAM
    5) ni wala pang completong Eng laboratory ang mga eskwelahan
    6) Kapag wlang mga R&D ang mga professor ng mga eskwelahan
    7) kakulangan ng screening sa  mga studyante
...kabalin , di ko alam kung saang aspeto ang mga accreditors na yan kukuha ng kanilang mga basehan..
cguro kung magbibigay sila ng multiple choice na pag susulit-may laban tayo..kasi sa pinas ng aral na ng 5 years nagrereview pa ng 5 months para lang sa multiple choice na pag susulit at kaagad agad..Enhinyero na..dyan may katiyakang makikipag pantayan tayo sa kanila..

6) Isang paala ala na lang sana..kahit na pa cguro top rank tayon ng enhinyerong kurso sa kung saan man
   ay wag nating kaligtaan..
   a) habang binabaha siguro ang eskwelahan natin,,,
   b) habang may mabahong astero sa gilid ng eskwelahan natin..
   c) habang wala ng mga puno sa eskwelahan natin..
   d) Mausok sa labas ng eskwelahan natin..
   e) Ma traffic sa labas ng eskwelahan natin..
  di ko malaman kabalin kung saan magsisimula ang engineering application natin??...

..*** Ito sana ay magsilbing pangaral sa mga kabataang enhinyero (nag aaral pa , grumadweyt na) nakatuon sana tayo sa kung ano ang katayuan natin..sa realidad at sa hirap ng buhay at kung may nagagawa nga ba tayong applications para maayos ang problema ng Pinas?



Salamat iyan po ay pananaw lamang at pambabahagi ng kuro kuro ..

Ang inyong lingkod.."PILIPINAS UMASENSO KA!"

Practicing CoE,ECE,EE

[chotix1925]

Nice topic here kaya diko mapigil sarili makisawsaw. It's my first post by the way.

To answer the question above, all I could say is all Engineering courses are good. If you're trying to say kong ano ang pinaka OK base on the scope of work for each field, ang masasabi ko lng is it's all depends on an individual preferences if what he wants to do, depends on his passion and interest. Each field has their own specialization to show and boast. Eddison for DC, Tesla for AC, Marconi for radio transmission, Galileo for his telescope, Graham bell for telephone, Bill gates for his software, etc. Based on that di mo pwede sabihin na mas OK or mas magaling si Marconi kaysa kay Eddison or whoever because they have their own specialization. But one thing is common, they are all mathematician and scientist.

Pero kong ang tanong kong alin sa tatlo ang may mas maraming job opportunities after graduation in Philippines based on reality. Then here is a fisrt hand information galing sa inyong lingkod ayon sa naranasan ko at maaaring hangang sa kasalukuyan. Pinakamaraming job opportunity ay ang EE kasunod ECE, panghuli COE most of their competitors are IT and comsci graduates. Paano ko nasabi yan? Walang mintis yung Manila Bulletin at Sun Star yung nasa Cebu pa ako noon. If you're an ECE or COE tapos living in the provincial cities like me, very slim chance to work as an Engr unlike sa EE you can still practice EE even in municipal level. Ang license ng ECE mgagamit lng for identification purposes only. Mas behind ang COE kasi wala PRC ID but I'm not saying that they are not good. I am talking about Engineeing job here, not a clerical data encoder, or the sosyalera call center agents which are all around the corner, they are big help in our economy though.

If you would ask me, kong ano i-advise ko to younger fellow if they would ask me which course ang kukunin nila. I would say EE.. (laki ng ngiti ng mga EE dyan ah). That's just me.

By the way, I like the thinking of the poster above me when he asks, "May ginawa kaba as an Engr para sa ikakaunlad ng Pinas?' Let me think!



"The difference between school and real life is that in school you will take the lesson first before you will learn, but in real life you will learn first before you will take that as a lesson"

            -chotix-, ECE
       Instrumentation Engineer
       Marine Seismic Data Acquisation
                                     

[E^3]

Nice topic here kaya diko mapigil sarili makisawsaw. It's my first post by the way.

To answer the question above, all I could say is all Engineering courses are good. If you're trying to say kong ano ang pinaka OK base on the scope of work for each field, ang masasabi ko lng is it's all depends on an individual preferences if what he wants to do, depends on his passion and interest. Each field has their own specialization to show and boast. Eddison for DC, Tesla for AC, Marconi for radio transmission, Galileo for his telescope, Graham bell for telephone, Bill gates for his software, etc. Based on that di mo pwede sabihin na mas OK or mas magaling si Marconi kaysa kay Eddison or whoever because they have their own specialization. But one thing is common, they are all mathematician and scientist.
-False :
1) The previous premise relates to the achievements not on comparison as it exemplifies professional equivalence.
2) Edison was the proponent(pioneering ) of Mass productions which could not be profess by mathematician and scientist therefore that was a job of an engineer-wikipedia.
3) Engineering is good but it requires expertise

Pero kong ang tanong kong alin sa tatlo ang may mas maraming job opportunities after graduation in Philippines based on reality. Then here is a fisrt hand information galing sa inyong lingkod ayon sa naranasan ko at maaaring hangang sa kasalukuyan. Pinakamaraming job opportunity ay ang EE kasunod ECE, panghuli COE most of their competitors are IT and comsci graduates. Paano ko nasabi yan? Walang mintis yung Manila Bulletin at Sun Star yung nasa Cebu pa ako noon. If you're an ECE or COE tapos living in the provincial cities like me, very slim chance to work as an Engr unlike sa EE you can still practice EE even in municipal level. Ang license ng ECE mgagamit lng for identification purposes only. Mas behind ang COE kasi wala PRC ID but I'm not saying that they are not good. I am talking about Engineeing job here, not a clerical data encoder, or the sosyalera call center agents which are all around the corner, they are big help in our economy though.

-False:Non Siquitor
I)Job at Provincial/Municipal level?
  a)Can you distinguish the authority between an RME to an REE having a difference to sign a contract/s?- PEE code
  b) Or the competitions(project/contract signing?) of both (RME & REE) to a PEE,so how could you earn a living?
  c) How many times are they going to estimate layout/install electricity to an edifice/bldg or house hold compared to the number of data networks (computer CPE): internet,OpenKiosk,web server/program-were these not required/implemented in almost provinces?
d) Just to give an information Com Sci,IT ,CoE are different professions : you will not find out IT buddy studying micro controlling to anticipate MCU-embedding careers and it is a fallacy for a ComSci to study principles of communications with data Networking that  CoE folks are inclined to...well observed if EE has to?Or or or..an ECE studying for a best page contents of a website..so tell the IT they have the answer
e) what a premise , so can we believe that a 5 year course is a just for a sake of  an ID-it couldn't be a joke!

II)And if you had noticed news papers' job ads ...no comment on that just ask our own selves if we are good enough as an engineers as we claimed to be ,then why take the Call center agents opportunities.

If you would ask me, kong ano i-advise ko to younger fellow if they would ask me which course ang kukunin nila. I would say EE.. (laki ng ngiti ng mga EE dyan ah). That's just me.

By the way, I like the thinking of the poster above me when he asks, "May ginawa kaba as an Engr para sa ikakaunlad ng Pinas?' Let me think!
---That is the ultimate goal and purpose

"The difference between school and real life is that in school you will take the lesson first before you will learn, but in real life you will learn first before you will take that as a lesson"

--FALSE!it does not follow...
School and the real life are different subject here, but rather relating the real life in school as what would happen in the real life of an oncoming  profession -acquiring a job.We are pertaining the anticipations of an engineering students how they/he would addressed the learned knowledge to apply problem solutions as what the community needs for it-and yet ENGINEERING IS NOT A TRIAL AND ERROR.

            -chotix-, ECE
       Instrumentation Engineer
       Marine Seismic Data Acquisation
                                     

Well, somehow it is a good conversations here , but the forums should views merely on factual ideas though opinions are welcomed.


Thanks and were all very much fine Engineers.

E^3

[chotix1925]

Magandang araw mga Kabalin,

Lahat yan maganda mapa CoE,ECE,EE.

1) Simple lang naman yan kung iisipin natin sina Edison,Tesla , Maxwell,Einstein atbp
    di naman mga yan PRC license-pero kung aalisin mo mga achievement nila naku
     baka di natin ma compute yung mga  question sa PRC kasi yung iba o karamihan sila
    ang may gawa/akda.

--- Of course! How could they get a PRC license? Di nman mga Pinoy ang mga iyon. Bakit
      meron bang PRC sa ibang bansa?


2)Ngayun tungkol sa pag yayabang/pag mamalaki wala namang problema yan,pero ito
  sana ang pumasok sa mga kukute natin.
    [ECE]
   i) Hangang ata sa kasalukuyan ala pa tayong na la launch na rocket para mag hatid sa space ng
       transponder-ilista mo lahat ng mga License at di license na engr ng pinas nako aabot na po sa   space??
    [EE]
    ii) Hangang ngayun ala paring magawang hybrid na solar o ma innovate man lang na power
       generations, ki anong electric resources para sa mga rural at remote na lugar.
    CoE
    iii) Hangang ngayun di parin makagawa ng sariling patch/version para sa translation(tagalog) ng Linux   
     OS para sa libreng Software at  apps at malabo ng makagamit ng libreng sariling OS si Juan.
**
   eto po ay mga ilan ilang sa mga problema ng kung anong may ka kulangan sa implementation ang mga enhinyero ng Pinas.Sa opinyon at experiensya ko,ang  "ans: (a)  (b) (c) (d)" ay di sagot sakot anumang problemang nababangit
   
3)Kung gusto nyo malaman at masubukan ? mag CoE ka pakatapos mag ECE ka  at pakatapos mag EE ka
   pero di lang dapat lang puro Titulo?? e Practice mo.
 
4) Kapag cguro eto ngyari di na lang tayo mag papaligsahan sakung may lisensya tayo o wala
   sa kung anong enhinyero ang ntapos natin o may titulo tayo....sapagkat mga kabalin
    1) Hangat wala pang satellite transponder na gawa tayo sa space
    2) hangat maraming pang lugar sa pinas ang walang kuryente
    3)Hanggat marami pang di nakakahawak ng computer
    4) di pa libre ang SMS messages natin at ang dami pang SPAM
    5) ni wala pang completong Eng laboratory ang eskwelahan
    6) Kapag wlang mga R&D ang mga professor ng mga eskwelahan
    7) kakulangan ng screening sa  mga studyante
     
Eh di mag multiple choice na lang tayo,isama natin sa exam yung mga mag sasaka , mga mangingisda
yung tambay at yung mga di nakapag aral dyan..malamang papasa sila sa board exam natin
kasi mag pipili lang sila ng best answer at (a) (b) (c) (d)....di ba mas madali madami pang papasa sa board?

-----Ganun ba? Eh sana halos lahat ng kumuha ng board exam pumasa kong madali lng nman ang multiple choice, kayang kaya pala ng mga mangingisda at tambay at mga di nkapag-aral. Ibig sabihin ang bobo pala ng mga Eng'g graduates na di pumasa kasi tambay lng katapat nila.

6) Cguro ang sagot sa tanong na "Ano pinaka OK: COE or  EE or ECE ? " ay eto " Naging Ok ba ang Pinas
sa mga COE,ECE at EE nya?

 ---The question was answered with another question. If someone would like to ask a new question, better to create a new thread for that.


Salamat iyan po ay pananaw lamang at pambabahagi ng kuro kuro ..

Ang inyong lingkod.."Pilipinas Umasenso Ka!"

Practicing CoE,ECE,EE

By the way this forum is helpful in exchanging ideas of fellowmen in technical field. We could gain additional knowledge and information by reading and sharing here.

Thus, any ideas and experience are welcome here, not to be a subject of criticism but to share thoughts. People opinions and experiences varies due to many variables involved.

For every action, there is always an equal and opposite reaction.

[E^3]

Good morning Fellow,

Note***
As always been expected having a good discussion here- and this has been so good so far.

We welcome any individual ideas here..Topic: Ano pinaka OK: COE or  EE or ECE ? "

The previous explanations mainly focus on this topic;we are alright and affirmative to
maintain non discrimination to any field of endeavor  being elaborated here..You can boost
your profession whatever so as excellent as you wanted to hail it!...being a CoE ,ECE or EE.
But..? please let us prohibit this word "bobo" ," di maganda " , "wala board" because this is a misleading
proposition that would lead to non agreeable premise.

Of course, they are not subjected to "PRC" bcoz they were not pinoy..need first to calculate the thinking
before commenting on this.
 
"For every action, there is always an equal and opposite reaction." The explanation never ever follows
to the logic as being the sequence of discussion.Why? that is applicable only to physical reactions not in logic by etiquette or by number of propositions.So? opposite(vise versa) reactions means boosting your profession and degrading other profession is that what it means..-that violates principles of etiquette.

Example:
Individual Opinion
   I am the best CoE here , I dont prefer EE nor ECE
General Opinion
  To mention, CoE had been influenced by ME and Mathematician -Charles Babbage

Hope agreeable.

I do believe that the sole objective of this forum is to uphold
 Pinoy Engineering Society(ki CoE,ECE,EE,XXE at E pa).Kudos! to the proponent.


E^3

[E^3]

Mine...
Eh di mag multiple choice na lang tayo,isama natin sa exam yung mga mag sasaka , mga mangingisda
yung tambay at yung mga di nakapag aral dyan..malamang papasa sila sa board exam natin
kasi mag pipili lang sila ng best answer at (a) (b) (c) (d)....di ba mas madali madami pang papasa sa board?

Yours...
-----Ganun ba? Eh sana halos lahat ng kumuha ng board exam pumasa kong madali lng nman ang multiple choice, kayang kaya pala ng mga mangingisda at tambay at mga di nkapag-aral. Ibig sabihin ang bobo pala ng mga Eng'g graduates na di pumasa kasi tambay lng katapat nila.

Please don't discriminate the intellect( as again you mentioned "bobo") of a farmers,fisherman ,non degree people--please read the sequence of argument before you conclude .Here , discusses the "possibilities" of these people to get  a chance to select right answer in a  question/s(pencil and paper).But hope you agree if I will give them Spectrum Analyzer and an active RF tx/rx they couldn't give me the exact center frequency of the device broadcast spectrum..so?

Take time to think of it...Generalize and realize..

E^3

[kelthuzad]

nag renew ng license ung prof ku. EE na ung ECE. Electronics Engineer na daw sa bago nyang license. kasi nga daw di alam ng mga companies ung ECE abroad.

[kelvinblank]

guys pangarap ko as engineer, makapagwork sa NASA as computer engineer, US Military, saka makilala sa buong mundo as engineer. pano kaya yon? hehehe

[voltaire]

pangarap kong tuparin ang mga pangarap mo... jejeje

[Google]

sa mga ganyan dapat di lang superior skills ang kailangan mo kasama din ang swerte at diskarte

[kelvinblank]

sarap siguro mgwork sa nasa or don sa advance technology ang ginagamit. nakakabaliw siguro magwork don

[E^3]

Hello; once again, that is great!

I will reply again as my parted opinion.

Here are the things I would want to share and explain, as I read this topic:
1) I raised my answer
    "They are all absolutely equal"
2) I observed the nature why it was posted by the said author.
   He’s saying...
"
For the next few years our kids may ask us advice on what courses to take- definitely your answer will be based on your experience --- and hopefully w/ the help of this post.
Considering my experience w/ COE -i may not advice them to take the course again. And looking on some of the posts here, i may recommend them to take EE instead."

GIVEN: Let me view the scenario.

1) Every year in the country (Packman’s land), opening an engineering positions could not be expected incrementing gradually as job hiring are concerns. To note that majority of the companies here are owned by foreigners (we knew what they meant and what they wanted [qualifications& job descriptions]) if they need an engineer). Say 50 vacant positions for (CoE, EE, ECE)/year! Let us review statistically the number of students graduating every year-how many institutions are there offering these courses?

2) Assume that we have 100 institutions with 50 CoE Engineering graduates a year. So 5,000 graduates would be competing to venture 50 vacant positions for CoE alone?
 
3) Good Job descriptions, would not allow CoE to compete ECE or EE .Why?
Say: a) CoE has an Advance Digital Design
        b) ECE has a Communications System Analysis & Design
        c) Power Transmission Design
3.1) to exert proofs:
 If I am a CoE, I have the ultimate edge to design micro-processor against ECE
          even with EE.Just a (ECE) microcontroller and partial background programming is not
          enough to compete with that Job! If I'm a CoE so ...EE?
 If I am an ECE, what the game are these CoE's and EE's doing if they would be competing
          me to design a Satellite Communication path profile?- I am wondering..
 and if I'm   an EE! Electrical Transmission is not for an ECE or CoE what the guts are they
        trying to proved unless electrify themselves!       
 3.2) So, who are the competitors? It is ECE against ECE and CoE against CoE
EE against EE and they are buying for that (50/5000) % of opportunity for them.

CONCLUSION:
 So if you are a CoE, ATLEAST!! YOU NEED TO BELONG YOURSELVES ON THE TOP 1 or TOP 50 best CoE's just to achieve that precious job...and your competitors are : CoE who previously graduated but are still seeking job, experienced CoE seeking for another greener pasture job  and the last group-your fellow batch CoE graduates.
 
 On the other hand, 4.950 graduates will be rumbling to find another job suited or not suited, relevant or not-for survival. Unless they have the ability to do entrepreneurship to create other engineering jobs of engineering business: Otherwise, thesame scenario is applicable also to EE, ECE and CoE and this is being revealed and is relational in the different testimonies of this forum.

ADVISE:
If I would be ask? My advice.... pursue whatever engineering profession you dream and you desire of: what you want or wanted just stay on top and ...acquired expertise! But please don’t ever blame your course/degree that you have not found out a suited job for you; instead, look for another reason or better evaluate yourself profession for enhancement. After all engineering practice is not always enlisted inside the company - you can create also your own. Freelancer, your own techno-innovative team or, group-startup small company without compromising your professional expertise -because that is the sole requirements to succeed!

SUGGESTIONS:
To the regulatory board, Why not regulate the Schools/Institutions offering Engineering courses!!!?
1) Do they have the updated facility (Lab & Equipments?)
2) Do they update course & Syllabi?
3) are their Professor /Instructor is capable of R&D practice?
Why need to consider these!!?
 BECUASE IF WE DON’T CHANGE THE SAID PERSPECTIVE  ...WE ARE RUINING THE ECONOMY OF THIS ARCHIPELAGO! WE ARE LOSING THEIR GAIN/PROFITS ...FOR THESE HUNDRED OF THAUSANDS GRADUATE ENGINEERING STUDENTS WHO INVESTED THIER TUITION FEES ....AVERAGING ((20K/SEMESTER)(2 SEMESTER/YEAR)(5 YEARS!))=[200K (5000 graduates)] A YEAR!!
..Whooooooooooo!


Though political system of this Archipelago seemed to be hopeless, we could still hope not in its technology wise...

Hope, I had said enough to answer this forum.

Thanks
 
E^3

[E^3]

Hello bro,

This is a good  view and reminders.

sa mga ganyan dapat di lang superior skills ang kailangan mo kasama din ang swerte at diskarte

"swerte" in a more interpretive way that is timing  that is not fortune/luckiness
"diskarte" disposition to search/look for that is not "padrino" or influence

Well, to an engineer that is expected to be his personal characteristics(built in attitude) and
our discourse includes mainly professional qualifications where skills dominate as one of its superiority.
Though they are in tandem for success ,hope we can isolate those just for the sake of discussion.

Thanks.

E^3