Neodymium Magnets & Hands-on Perpetual Motion Machine Try outs

[Born2BeWired]

Sis Henry (of e-gizmo) decided to sell rare earth neodymium magnets para sa ating mga gustong sumubok kung pupwede ngang gumawa ng free energy device, a.k.a. perpetual motion machine PMM. Now, you do not have to shell out cash kung gusto nyong experiment: e-gizmo provided a ready to use platform to do your experiments free of charge, as shown in the following photos (provided by sis henry).



All you have to do is visit e-gizmo parlor, borrow the contraption from the staff, and do experiments to your liking. According to sis henry, they tried to make it work themselves, but perhaps their faith in the laws of thermodynamics and prior prejudice against PMM prevented them from making a successful run.

This photo illustrates how powerful these magnets are


And e-gizmo staff immediately find use for these magnets


Efffective din daw yung magnet sa pag wipe-out (to invalidate)  ng credit card, para mapigil ang pag-gastos ni misis

[rdpzycho]

 

meron kaya nung kaya 'yung isang kabang bigas?

dito rin nahihilig boss ko ngayon. hehe. pagtingin ko sa table, puro tambak ng neodymium.

[marcelino]

thanks to Sis Henry for this very helpful outreach. isa sana ako sa susubok nyan kung malapit lang sana ako dyan... hayz...

naipit nyan yung anak ko! iyak kaagad! hehe... di naman naghemorage, pero namula kaagad. at since neodymium magnet yung ginamit kong pang ipit ng mga resibo sa side ng filing cabinet namin, wala nang nawalang resibo!

magkano naman daw yung magnet?

[iyo karpo]

Can the stored energy in a permanent magnet be utilized?

[jamz]

magkano magnets na neodynium at anong sizes ang available?

[nucleus]

itong application na ito ang magpapatunay na hindi unlimited ang energy ng permanent magnet

[maldihtah13]

around 16 Pesos isa.

Ingat lang sa handling kasi prone mabasag. I already broke 2 pcs because of improper handling.

[akhen]

weve tried it... kanina lang... conclusion? perpetual motion machine PMM hypothesis failed based on experimentation;D

Note: ingat sa magnet na yan masakit makaipit sa sobrang lakas...

[piona]

wag magbulsa ng maraming neodymium, pagnadikit kayo sa sasakyan baka kaladkarin kayo sa kalsada   saka wag na wag maglagay nito sa dalawang bulsa pagnapang-abot ang dalawa pisa ang saging o kamote nyo   feel nyo ang induction ng mga transformer paghawak nyo yan....

[akhen]

maganda daw pangtest yan kung may metal ang saging...

[jamz]

wag magbulsa ng maraming neodymium, pagnadikit kayo sa sasakyan baka kaladkarin kayo sa kalsada  saka wag na wag maglagay nito sa dalawang bulsa pagnapang-abot ang dalawa pisa ang saging o kamote nyo  feel nyo ang induction ng mga transformer paghawak nyo yan....

ok lang yan, pampa-swerte , minsan naligaw ako sa mga tyangge ng mga nagtitinda ng mga gadgets eh, pag-uwi ko me rolex na nakadikit.   

around 16 Pesos isa.

mura lang pala? bibili kaagad ako para sa bedini circuit ko. thanks! 

[updated]

pede na gumawa ng toy wind generator

[iyo karpo]

pede na gumawa ng toy wind generator

pede kaya pampower ng toy boat?

[maldihtah13]

Maganda yan sa mag-lev at yes wind generator.

[piona]

Sis Henry (of e-gizmo) decided to sell rare earth neodymium magnets para sa ating mga gustong sumubok kung pupwede ngang gumawa ng free energy device, a.k.a. perpetual motion machine PMM. Now, you do not have to shell out cash kung gusto nyong experiment: e-gizmo provided a ready to use platform to do your experiments free of charge, as shown in the following photos (provided by sis henry).

ano bang mga sizes available sis?

[updated]

^ 1 size lang sis yung nakita ko

[bravokilo]

Maganda yungginawa ni sis Henry. I described something similar dun sa "new ways to generates elecrtricity something" ni vanbritz. kung,pwede,theory muna tayo.  Yung brushless motors and pag aralan natin. yan na ginawa ni sis Henry, instead of a mgnet yung nasa kamay, itapat ng coil.Make driver using mosfets that will switch the polarity of the current to the coil, thus the magnetic pole. (The magnets in the wheel should ne N,S,N,S,etc..). The switching can be controlled 1) by a sensor that picks up any of the magnets to reverse the pole of the coil. Everntually , as was discovered in brushless motors, there is no need to sense any magnet. The switching is automatic, slow at the start then increasing in frequency. the motor will spin.

The idea is to eliminate the coil and instead use a PM magnet such as the one held by the hand in the pix. but there must be a way to spin the magnet to change poles.When it is N, the magnet past it is N and the magnet b4 it is S and when the S magnet is in front of it but past it a little due to inertia, the magnet in the hand rotates to give its opposite face. TIMING will be very important. Now, if the stationary magnet can be rotated by the wheel, it will keep on running. idea is  to mount the stationary magnet on a shaft with an arm overhead. the spinning wheel also has protruding arms which will kick the magnet to turnaround. Pwede kaya? The way I see it, the minimum we can get here is to amplify power. The challenge is to use less energy to rotate the stationary magnets than the energy produced by the larger spinning wheel. I principle, we know there is power in the magnet which can in fact be converted to current. the idea is to bypass the conversion to current then back to magnet as in the coil. magnet to magnet kaagad.  Now, one stationary magnet will rotate the wheel but if we put as many around the wheel , all rotating to shift poles, lalakas and torque.

    Intermediate experiment: Put several stationary magnets all joined by a large belt(or geared) to a handcrank. Try turning the crank, the wheel should turn. Put a tiny geared motor to dothe job. Will the big spinning wheel produced more output that what is consumed by the small motor. The concept in my mind is LEVERAGING

[bravokilo]

Maganda yung ginawa ni sis Henry. I described something similar dun sa "new ways to generates elecrtricity something" ni vanbritz. kung,pwede,theory muna tayo.  Yung brushless motors and pag aralan natin. yan na ginawa ni sis Henry, instead of a mgnet yung nasa kamay, itapat ng coil.Make driver using mosfets that will switch the polarity of the current to the coil, thus the magnetic pole. (The magnets in the wheel should ne N,S,N,S,etc..). The switching can be controlled 1) by a sensor that picks up any of the magnets to reverse the pole of the coil. Everntually , as was discovered in brushless motors, there is no need to sense any magnet. The switching is automatic, slow at the start then increasing in frequency. the motor will spin.

The idea is to eliminate the coil and instead use a PM magnet such as the one held by the hand in the pix. but there must be a way to spin the magnet to change poles.When it is N, the magnet past it is N and the magnet b4 it is S and when the S magnet is in front of it but past it a little due to inertia, the magnet in the hand rotates to give its opposite face. TIMING will be very important. Now, if the stationary magnet can be rotated by the wheel, it will keep on running. idea is  to mount the stationary magnet on a shaft with an arm overhead. the spinning wheel also has protruding arms which will kick the magnet to turnaround. Pwede kaya? The way I see it, the minimum we can get here is to amplify power. The challenge is to use less energy to rotate the stationary magnets than the energy produced by the larger spinning wheel. I principle, we know there is power in the magnet which can in fact be converted to current. the idea is to bypass the conversion to current then back to magnet as in the coil. magnet to magnet kaagad.  Now, one stationary magnet will rotate the wheel but if we put as many around the wheel , all rotating to shift poles, lalakas and torque.

    Intermediate experiment: Put several stationary magnets all joined by a large belt(or geared) to a handcrank. Try turning the crank, the wheel should turn. Put a tiny geared motor to dothe job. Will the big spinning wheel produced more output that what is consumed by the small motor. The concept in my mind is LEVERAGING just like we lever strength in a crowbar. Sikwat sa tagalog. i don't if we can do it, ideas lang on what we are trying to do. A mathematician might be able to show us the formula that it cannot be done. INTUITION lang ito, di ba?

BK

[bravokilo]

Sa timing talaga ang big question mark. dun sa intermediate experiment, imagine running a small boat using only say 4 cells na nicadwhich is spinning the stationay magnets which turns the spinning wheel.

ung sa nagtanong if we can power a boat. Well, the same concept. I we harness wind to spin the stationary magnets, can we create greater power to churn the propeller.

@updated,  hinde lang toy windpower generator since we can stack magnets. We can punt one over the other of join them side by side to produce the power of an equivalent big one.

Google windpower and you will see many homebuilt alternators. Yung nakita ko, ang mage coils nasa thick plywood. Data is given.Tapos, may rotating disc dun na puros magnets. to give you an idea:

     mount the front hub of a bike on the top of a pipe.strap or weld. Yung, you will have a spinning shaft. Put a hole in a circular board(yung nylon chopping board). Insert on shaft and tighten. Glue the magnets around this disc. Mabuti kung nakabaon ng konti, pero di na, just put nylon spacers between magnets. Yung coil plate , pwede din chopping board para di mabulok. Sahap ito ng disc with magnets held by a framed welded to the pipe too. Put a large propeller sa harap. ayan. Now, you will have to weather vane the pipe, di ba? Mount the pipe on V bearings(pra di lumusut), naka housing yung bearing larger pipe to the ground.Put a Vane.

Gusto mo, gawin natin vertical turbine.Sa ilalim naman yung rotating magnets. Or, may belt and pulley tayo to turn the same thing as above pero may pulley instead of a propeller.


BK

[piona]

mahirap nga pag-pure magnetics, mas madali kung may alalay na konting pulses para sa gaps, kagaya nong kay john christy. ang habol lang naman dito e yong net power na makukuha, dapt mas malaki ang power output kaysa power na nainput. kaya kadalsan tintawag nla itong power amplifier generators.