modem- wireless router- access point-range expander

[jomargi]

sir tanong ko lang po,,meron na po ako nito mga eto,, linsys po gamit ko router access point at expander,, pano po ba ang connection nito sir gusto ko maglagay d2 sa bahay nmin e hanggang 4floor po kami hindi na makasagap un nasa taas,, ung mga ip configuration nalang po ang problema ko naka setup na po e may mga cable na rin ang modem to router to access point,, d ko nalang magpagkita kita, naka DHCP ang ISP provider ko e GLOBE po,, thanks in advance,, tama ba ang ginagawa ko

wiressless router:

ip address

192.168.1.1
255.255.255.0

access point :

192.168.1.2
255.255.255.0

expander

192.168.1.3
255.255.255.0

hindi po ba lalagyan ng mga gateway to at DNS san mangagaling ang gateway at DNS ko meron po salamat

[zer0w1ng]

All the APs are on the same subnet (192.168.1.0/24).  So the tcp/ip packets on all APs will go to the 192.168.1.1 that I presume, the DHCP server spurts out as the gateway. 

So, even the PCs that is connected to the expander will be served by the DHCP server on the router, giving it a 192.168.1.x address, default DNS and the default gateway.

Just set the PCs served on the gateway router to "automatic" and it should be fine.

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Also as a note, use WDS as your AP repeating protocol.  This is more bandwidth friendly.
But you need to write/set the MAC of each other AP connecting to each.

[pete]

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[jomargi]

cgi sir salamat po,,, try ko bukas to salamat po sir

[jomargi]

wait lang po sir zerowing ibig nio po ba sabihin,, kung meron akong 2 ap e pare parehas lang ang ip add. na ilalagay ko dun? ex. 192.168.0.3? e pano naman sa expander sir?? configure pa ba un?? e pag pinipindot ko ung automatic configure ng expander  buhay naman ang mga signal kaso wala naman net sir,, pano po ba gagawin sir,,, ?? salamat

[jomargi]

sir zerowing paki details naman po ng step by step pacencia na sir,,, d pa me familiar sa mga ganitong setup,, salamat sa tulong sir

[pete]

palitan mo ang last number

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kaingan di conflict ang ip mo, pwede mo baguhin ang dulo ip ng expander

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na config mo na ba ng wi-router mo, kailangan ma config mo muna yan

[jomargi]

ok cgi sir configure ko muna salamat po

[zer0w1ng]

wait lang po sir zerowing ibig nio po ba sabihin,, kung meron akong 2 ap e pare parehas lang ang ip add. na ilalagay ko dun? ex. 192.168.0.3? e pano naman sa expander sir?? configure pa ba un?? e pag pinipindot ko ung automatic configure ng expander  buhay naman ang mga signal kaso wala naman net sir,, pano po ba gagawin sir,,, ?? salamat

The APs should have different addresses.
These assigned AP addresses should not also be in conflict with the DHCP address range that the DHCP server will assign.  

For example, the range of the DHCP assigned address is 192.168.1.100-255, there should be no AP or statically assigned IP address that is in that range. So assigning the AP with 192.168.1.105 may have problems because a PC may have been assigned the same address by the DHCP server.

For the expander, don't make it automatic (address, DNS, gateway taken from DHCP server), but set it its IP as static (user assigned).  As I just explained, the address *SHOULD NOT* be within the DHCP allocated addresses.

As on my previous post, WDS repeating http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Distribution_System is recommended.
Most newer routers support this standard.  

In your case you have 2 routers, main and expander, the MAC address of the expander is entered/supplied on the main router.  Then the main router's MAC also is entered on expander.  

Adding a new WDS node (main<->expander<->expander2), for example expander2, is just simply adding the MAC address of expander2 to expander and MAC address of expander to expander2.  The expander will have 2 MAC addresses on its WDS table, that are the main and expander2 MAC addresses.

WDS setup can be a close loop as well, for example expander2 can be heard by main.  So this is just done by adding the MAC address of main to expander2 table and MAC address of expander to main, respectively.

main <-> expander <-> expander2
 ^                                 ^
 |                                  |        
 +------------------------+

[jomargi]

Sir zero salamat po sa explain nio thanks po bukas gawin ko ulit to

[jrayville]

good am po masters! related po dito ang aking tanong e.

we have to design a wireless network of a hotel,6 floors. ito po ba ang gagamitin ko? patulog naman po ng diagram nito.

ito po ba? modem-wireless router-server-accesspoint-range expander?

ano2 po ba yang mga access point at range expander? wireless router din po ba yan? paano ko o connect? in series lang? 1 for each floor? paano po ip addresses nila? thank you po!

[otsowaloeyt]

good am po masters! related po dito ang aking tanong e.

we have to design a wireless network of a hotel,6 floors. ito po ba ang gagamitin ko? patulog naman po ng diagram nito.

ito po ba? modem-wireless router-server-accesspoint-range expander?

ano2 po ba yang mga access point at range expander? wireless router din po ba yan? paano ko o connect? in series lang? 1 for each floor? paano po ip addresses nila? thank you po!

same kami ng query ni jrayville..

3floors nman un bldg.

currently naka d-link dir-300 g pa lang ata. tas ang nkakasagap lng ng signal eh un room where the router is at paglabas lng ng door..

anu po pede nio suggest na hardwares na gamitin. sna d gnun ka-expensive.

anu po marecommend nio n router? AP o range expander? each floor po b? pede kaya per room my access?

tnx po mga master!

[rdpzycho]

this is from DD-WRT Wiki, check na lang with available routers for similar configurations:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linking_Routers
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Access_Point
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WDS_Linked_router_network

pwede rin 'to with Tomato:

http://www.myopenrouter.com/blog/entry/10354/Configure-WDS-with-Tomato-Firmware/

nasa 1,580 lang 'yung Tomato Router ng CD-R King. reliable naman siya, 'yan ang gamit namin sa opisina at gamit ko sa bahay, so far, no problems encountered pa.

kung gustong ma-cover lahat ng rooms, huwag gumamit ng omnidirectional antenna sa edge or corner ng building. kapag sa corner nakalagay ang omni, 3/4 ng useful signal is wasted sa labas or sa kapitbahay. use directional antennas. or kung omni pa rin ang gamit, dapat sa gitna nung building ang installation.

[otsowaloeyt]

kung gustong ma-cover lahat ng rooms, huwag gumamit ng omnidirectional antenna sa edge or corner ng building. kapag sa corner nakalagay ang omni, 3/4 ng useful signal is wasted sa labas or sa kapitbahay. use directional antennas. or kung omni pa rin ang gamit, dapat sa gitna nung building ang installation.

thanks sir rdpzycho!

sir newbie lang ako.. gusto ko lng mkabawas ng gastos sa ofis. bukod sa cdr-king na tomato router, anu p po need ko na mga hardware para magkaron un 3 floors ng wifi?

anu pong directional antenna pede?.. meron din po b sa cdr-king? thanks!

meron kc ko online n na-inquire roughclaw at wireless link technology.. ang mamahal, un ubiquiti unifi at picostation un sinasuggest nila. wala naman ganun budget kasi nagsisimula palang un business.

thanks po uli!

[rdpzycho]

'yun lang naman ang kailangan. meron na ring antenna doon. pwede nang i-set 'yun as WDS. or kung pwede namang gumawa ng wired link, pwedeng i-wire 'yung mga router.

pwede ring 'di gumastos sa antenna, gagawan lang ng reflector. search for Windsurfer at Corner Reflector templates. ipri-print mo lang 'yun sir, ikakabit sa cardboard, tapos gugupitin. after nun lalagyan ng aluminum foil at ikakabit doon sa omni antenna.

[otsowaloeyt]

sir rdpzycho thanks uli!

itry ko po un windsurfer..

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