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Author Topic: ALL ABOUT LCD AND PLASMA TV TROUBLES, SHARE NAMAN  (Read 1946 times)
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« on: May 25, 2010, 04:04:55 PM »

 Those who can give away some "old ideas" about trouble encounters ng LCD at Plasma, kahit hint lang, sana ma-share din nila dito sa forum na eto para lahat makikinabang...gaya ng "ano ba common troubles na madalas sa ganito model o ganu'ng brand"...even 'ideas' lang, kasi alam ko din me mga 'trade secrets' din na di pwede nilang share...
Una na ko..."Ano pagkakaiba ng LCD sa Plasma? Me high voltage pa ba sa Plasma tvs?
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2010, 11:15:03 PM »


 Those who can give away some "old ideas" about trouble encounters ng LCD at Plasma, kahit hint lang, sana ma-share din nila dito sa forum na eto para lahat makikinabang...gaya ng "ano ba common troubles na madalas sa ganito model o ganu'ng brand"...even 'ideas' lang, kasi alam ko din me mga 'trade secrets' din na di pwede nilang share...
Una na ko..."Ano pagkakaiba ng LCD sa Plasma? Me high voltage pa ba sa Plasma tvs?


"Ano pagkakaiba ng LCD sa Plasma? Me high voltage pa ba sa Plasma tvs?

^ ah madami.. ang LCD, ay sa LCD cell nanggagaling ang image nya, pero ang liwanag nya ay nanggagaling sa backlight (flourescent lamp). Plasma image at liwanag nya nanggagaling mismo sa cell nya (katulad ng sa incandescent lamp).

hindi naman ganon ka high voltage ang sa Plasma. ang backlight kasi ng sa LCD TV ay around 2000Vdc.. sa Plasma mga nasa 200V lang per cell..

ang function ng PCB nila halos magkaparehas lang, nagkakaiba lang sa katawagan.

Plasma PBA..                                  LCD PBA..
SMPS-------------------------------SMPS
PCB Main----------------------------PCB Main
Logic Board-------------------------Ti-Con
Logic Buffer Board E
Logic Buffer Board F
Y-Main Board
Y-Buffer / Y-Scan
X-Main
X-Buffer
-------------------------------------Inverter (para sa backlight)

yung mga latest na LCD TV ngayon pinag isa na yung Inverter Board at SMPS (ang tawad IP Board).. at yung Ti-Con board isinama na rin sa PCB Main nya, (or nandun na mismo sa LCD Panel Assy). kaya minsan dalawa na lamang ang makikita mong PCB sa loob ng LCD TV.

sa mga karaniwang trouble naman, tama po kayo Sir Sirjon depende sa brand.

mahabang usapan pagdating sa trouble, katulad halimbawa ng "NO RASTER w/ SOUND" nyahahaha.. madaming pwede dahilan nito..

sa Plasma (no raster w/ sound): check Vs voltage (sa SMPS),
                                            check Va voltage (sa SMPS),
                                            check Ve voltage (sa X-Main),
                                            check Ve voltage (sa Logic buffer Board E),
                                            check Vscan voltage (sa Y-Main),
                                            check PCB Main,
                                            check Logic Board..
sa una mangangapa ka, pero sa ibang mga master ay dyan na papasok yung "trade secret" (technique) nila para malaman kaagad kung alin sa mga ito ang sira at saan sila mag fofocus sa repairing..

sa LCD (no raster w/ sound): check kung umiilaw ang backlight (check inverter or fluorescent lamp)
                                        check Ti-Con Board,
                                        check PCB Main,
                                   
kalimitang sira ng mga LCD at Plasma TV ay yung bwesit na "NO RASTER w/ SOUND"..
then, Negative Picture, No Sound, Video Signal Not Detected, Dark Picture, One Color Only (red or green or blue only), Power No Start (LED indicator standby only), ''On'' but Afterwards Automatically ''Off'', Power "ON-OFF" Condition, yung NO POWER simply lang yun (baliwala na yung trouble na yun).

PERO ang pinaka bwesit sa lahat ay yung PANEL LINES, kapag ganito mangyari sa LCD or PLASMA TV nyo, naku umiyak na kayo..
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2010, 05:28:18 PM »

Sir Mr. D, pwede ba +3 points  para sa'yo? Salamat ng marami. Sana, more will post their 'knowledge' about LCD and PLASMa, although sa tingin ko, under "experimental" pa rin ang mga eto dahil me bago yata? SED, replacing PLASMA Tech?...hirap talaga maka-catch up sa tech now...still...please enlighten naman kami old timers pero 'tanga' sa new tech...para bang nung araw, tech na de-'tubo' eh napanis sa "solid-state" electronics...need more studying na tipong walang katapusan...Help naman para di mapag iwanan!
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2010, 02:52:36 AM »

sa LCD pag may mga vertical line, most of the time panel na
in case of plasma may chance ka pa na sira ang buffer mo or
yung flex cable need lang reconnect or madumi na contacts

another this sa plasma if picture is kinda wierd like
ther are some dots on the edge of the picture, you can always
check the supply voltage ng mga drives at boards coming from
power supply board. minsan kasi adjustment lang ito
if not the it could be the digital board
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2010, 03:58:11 AM »

Help naman po,

ano po kaya sira sa plasma kapag distorted ang picture pero ok naman ang sound

distorted na yung tipong wala sa focus


sana po may maka tulong

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2010, 05:30:34 AM »

pwedeng pki kunan ng picture
tapos post mo dito

anong source gamit mo?
digital cable ba or ordinary antenna?
nag try ka na ba ng dvd or bluray?
ano ang resolution settings mo?
are u using HDMI input or component input?
how about on composite?

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 10:23:53 PM »

^ YES, kunan mo ng picture and post mo dito..

ano nga pala brand at model number nyan, para masaya..

BTW, yung ibang mga Plasma Trouble katulad ng "NO SOUND, PICTURE OK", "DARK PICTURE", "DISTORTED PICTURE", "NO RASTER", "HINDI MAKAKUHA NG CHANNEL" - minsan sa software ng PCB MAIN lang ang sira..


Sir Mr. D, pwede ba +3 points  para sa'yo? Salamat ng marami. Sana, more will post their 'knowledge' about LCD and PLASMa, although sa tingin ko, under "experimental" pa rin ang mga eto dahil me bago yata? SED, replacing PLASMA Tech?...hirap talaga maka-catch up sa tech now...still...please enlighten naman kami old timers pero 'tanga' sa new tech...para bang nung araw, tech na de-'tubo' eh napanis sa "solid-state" electronics...need more studying na tipong walang katapusan...Help naman para di mapag iwanan!


^ ayos lang Sir Sirjon,

yung SED di ko pa alam yan, wala pang discussion ang company about dyan. Last year lumabas yung LED TV namin na napakamahal, medyo oke naman ang performance magaaan lang at manipis na lang compared sa latest model ng mga LCD TV namin na lumabas ngayong taon lang..
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 11:01:25 PM »

Mga bosing,

Eto yung picture

Hindi masyadong pasin eh
pero parang umaalon ang picture nito sa actual tapos sa ilalim ng screen medyo umaagat ang picture
Tsaka yung edge ng bawat picture kumakalat

Mas grabe to pag bagong power on

****Sa madaling description eh parang na nanuood na ang may hawak ng camera eh masyadong magalaw
parang ganito




kind regards
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010, 11:07:58 PM »

Paste ko na lng yung url
hindi ma view ang picture kasi

by the way kahit anong input gamitin ko
ganun lahat
masyadong magalaw ang picture kahit hindi naman dapat gumagalaw
parang umaalon tapos wala magandang focus



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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2010, 11:13:22 PM »

^ sir anong model nyan, 42D4 or 42D5? old model na kasi yan.. post mo complete model and serial number..
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2010, 11:22:23 PM »

^Sige lang tito boy,  share lang po. At ng kami'y maliwanagan sa technology neto.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 12:23:53 PM »

Nice 'no? Although sa totoo lang, 3 na sa mga costumers ko (malaki tiwala sa akin) eh pinarerepair FLAT TV nila, ako lang tumatanggi. Gaya nung 1, wala lang sound, kaso tanong ko magkano bili nya Plasma Tv nya, P120,000 daw. Sabi ko dalhin na lang sa Authorized service center. Nung magkita kami ulit, P6,000 siningil sa kanya, no sound lang. biro nga sa akin baka sira lang speaker eh di ko daw ginawa, pinalalakas pa loob ko, 'kayang-kaya ko daw yun' kasi me tiwala siya. hirap na, napakamahal nun, baka madisgrasya...wala pa kong formal training (mga 5 years ago?)
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 12:31:16 PM »

sa LCD pag may mga vertical line, most of the time panel na
in case of plasma may chance ka pa na sira ang buffer mo or
yung flex cable need lang reconnect or madumi na contacts

another this sa plasma if picture is kinda wierd like
ther are some dots on the edge of the picture, you can always
check the supply voltage ng mga drives at boards coming from
power supply board. minsan kasi adjustment lang ito
if not the it could be the digital board
Adjustments ba nito, electronics (via service mode setting) or trimmers pa? Kasi ako, me training sa Projection Tvs (1986 pa), 3 small crt (for green, red, blue), deflected by a mirrror.Hirap, dami trimmers for skews, beam landing, etc.. Is it advantage na me training ka sa projection tvs? Guys point naman ke Sir Danny? Hep-hep hurray!
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 12:37:14 PM »

^ YES, kunan mo ng picture and post mo dito..

ano nga pala brand at model number nyan, para masaya..

BTW, yung ibang mga Plasma Trouble katulad ng "NO SOUND, PICTURE OK", "DARK PICTURE", "DISTORTED PICTURE", "NO RASTER", "HINDI MAKAKUHA NG CHANNEL" - minsan sa software ng PCB MAIN lang ang sira..

^ ayos lang Sir Sirjon,

yung SED di ko pa alam yan, wala pang discussion ang company about dyan. Last year lumabas yung LED TV namin na napakamahal, medyo oke naman ang performance magaaan lang at manipis na lang compared sa latest model ng mga LCD TV namin na lumabas ngayong taon lang..
Di na blurred kapag nasa side ka nakatingin (yung LCD Screen)? Sir, if you don't mind, ano company mo?
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 04:05:32 PM »

http://www.rgby.org/sharp-quattron-rgby-tv



latest LCD ng sharp
new technology
available na sa market although
nde pa ako naka bukas, maybe this coming month
may training na ako nito  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2010, 10:56:59 PM »


Adjustments ba nito, electronics (via service mode setting) or trimmers pa? Kasi ako, me training sa Projection Tvs (1986 pa), 3 small crt (for green, red, blue), deflected by a mirrror.Hirap, dami trimmers for skews, beam landing, etc.. Is it advantage na me training ka sa projection tvs? Guys point naman ke Sir Danny? Hep-hep hurray!


^ mas nauna akong na expose sa LCD at PLASMA TV kesa sa CRT Projection TV ( pa balik noh?) phase-out na lahat na mga LCD at CRT Projection namin, napilitan na lang akong makisawsaw sa mga Projection TV kasi kulang ng tao (nagbakasyon) kaya ako napili ng kompanya ng gumawa nung mga natitira pang Projection Unit..



Di na blurred kapag nasa side ka nakatingin (yung LCD Screen)? Sir, if you don't mind, ano company mo?


^ salamat sir sa pag papaliwanag ng SED. ala pang balita sa office nyan, pero malamang sa korea gumagawa na sila nyan, bibiglain na lang kami nila (katulad nung pag labas ng LED TV). nagulat na lang kami kasi merong For Evaluation na LED TV.. nyahahaha.. sabi kasi nila kami daw ang kauna unahang nag labas ng LED TV sa market..

chikret muna sir yung company ko..
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2010, 12:30:47 AM »

Mga bosing ano kaya problema nung LCD computer monitor ko Model# NEC LCD1550V ayaw mag turn on nag bliblink lng yung green power indicator. Hint lang po sana at pakikialaman ko ng buksan. Salamat po.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2010, 02:58:56 AM »

check for bloated caps in the power supply
mag visual check ka muna, or baka naman
may loose connection ka lang sa mga connectors
reconnect mo na din muna before you dive in really deep  Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2010, 09:22:17 PM »

share ko lang sa LED TV..

http://www.electronicslab.ph/forum/index.php/topic,17632.msg307713/topicseen.html#msg307713
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2010, 03:44:08 AM »

^ sir anong model nyan, 42D4 or 42D5? old model na kasi yan.. post mo complete model and serial number..



Sir,

42D4S po ang model

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