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« on: February 28, 2010, 07:49:48 PM »

2 po kasi ung gagawin kong circuit..

lamp dimmer tsaka fan motor

pag sasamahin ko po tas interface sa parallel port?? help po pls

ty po sa mga tutulong

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 07:55:44 PM »

di ko magets, pwede paki elaborate yung requirements mo? mas safe kung may optocoupler bago yung circuit para mas safe yung PC mo
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 08:05:54 PM »

ung circuit ng lamp dimmer imbes na diac ang nilagay ko sa gate ung relay ung nilagay ko para ung computer ang nagkokontrol para sa pag switch on at switch off ng ilaw..

tas ganun din sa circuit ng fan nilagay ko sa normally open para kapag nag output na ung parallel port magiging normally close na ung normally open

parang ung circuit na 2 computer nag cocontrol ng pag switch on at pag switch off ng lamp tsaka ng fan
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2010, 08:36:18 PM »

Gamitan mo ng optocoupler katulad ng sabi ni sir tiktak. Para mas safe ang computer mo. Saka walang reverse diode relay mo, pagmake-off nyan baka pumasok as noise.

Kapag nagshort ang junction ng collector at base mo baka pumasok sa parallel port mo.

Sana makatulong.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 08:45:26 PM »

Sabi po kasi ng prof ko mahirap gamitin ang optocoupler ehh kaya relay lang ang ginamit ko..

kung optocoupler lang po ang ilalagay ko indi kona kelangan ng relay??indi ko narin ba kelangan maglagay ng diode sa relay??

ung kathode ba ng diode nakalagay sa colector ng transistor??

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 08:53:00 PM »

anong mahirap sa optocoupler? isolation lang naman ito eh para mas safe, ganun din sa transistor try to search google makikita mo na madali lang talaga Cheesy at dahil gagamit ka ng 220V kelangan mo talaga dahil kung may makapasok na high voltage sibak ang PC mo Grin
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 08:56:56 PM »

ahh ganun po ba un..anu po kayang optocoupler ang dapat na gamit ko??anu po ung value na pede sa 220V??

un lang po ba ang mali sa circuit??

lahat po ba ng ground magkakadikit kahit ung ground ng 220v nakadikit sa ground ng na rectified na 12v??

ty po mga idol ang gagaling niyo poh ^^
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 09:00:01 PM »

ung circuit ng lamp dimmer imbes na diac ang nilagay ko sa gate ung relay ung nilagay ko para ung computer ang nagkokontrol para sa pag switch on at switch off ng ilaw..

tas ganun din sa circuit ng fan nilagay ko sa normally open para kapag nag output na ung parallel port magiging normally close na ung normally open

parang ung circuit na 2 computer nag cocontrol ng pag switch on at pag switch off ng lamp tsaka ng fan

if lamp dimmer circuit.... san un pagcontrol ng light to dimmm...variable resistor ba ung R2
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 09:24:10 PM »

indi na siguro sir ginawa ko nalang na fix na lang ung resistor..kelangan xe may thyristor ung circuit namin ehh para sa project
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 11:07:09 PM »

ala na po ba kayong nakikitang mali sa circuit na 2 gagawin ko na po ba?lay out kona sa pcb??
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 11:22:42 PM »

'yung optocoupler pwede mong gamitin 'yung transistor niya sa output, instead na 'yung 2N2222.

'yung sa thryristor circuit, mas maganda kung sa line na lang 'yung putol ng relay. naka-float 'yung gate mo, 'di mo sigurado kung ano mangyayari kapag 'di naka-sindi 'yung relay.

BTW, hindi mahirap gumamit ng optocoupler, kahit na 'yung para sa trigger ng thyristor. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2010, 11:25:25 PM »


dapat may opto-isolator ung banda sa may parallel I/O port.. or pwede rin ang diode and a zener type doon "in between" sa may parallel port I/O pin and parallel port ground..

dapat lagyan mo ng proteksyon ung parallel port dahil meron iyang voltage limit.. pwedeng alternatibo ung diode dahil meron siyang "over-voltage" protection capability..

nacalculate mo ba ung mga values doon sa RC snubber circuits mo or trial and error lang.. pwede ka ring gumamit ng diode snubbers ..

pwede din ung silicon controlled rectifier or SCR's na naka-parallel para doon sa "dimmer" pero ok na iyong "triac"..

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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2010, 11:28:15 PM »

sa gitna po ba ng source na 220 tsaka ng lamp dapat ilagay ung relay??

edi lalagyan ko pa po ng diac ung gate kapag tinangal ko ung relay sa gate??

anu po bang value ng optocoupler nag maganda gamitin??
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2010, 11:31:26 PM »

4N37, or PC817 pwede na rin.

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2010, 11:33:08 PM »

mag lalagay pa po ba ako ng diac o indi na??

pakita ko po ung circuit na inulit ko w8 lang po
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2010, 11:37:28 PM »

pwede namang diyan din 'yung relay, pero subukan niyo muna with switch kung ano ang mangyayari. Wink

actually, kung Triac talaga 'yung kailangan, mas preferred kong diretso na sa MOC3041 na opto. meron kasing Zero Crossing detection 'yung MOC3041, mas mababa ang switching losses.
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2010, 11:39:21 PM »



e2 po ung circuit
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2010, 11:42:09 PM »

teka, 'yung 4N37, pamalit lang 'yung sa 2N2222, at hindi niya kayang maghandle ng mataas na current at mataas na voltage.

isolation lang siya nung parallerl port at nung switches.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2010, 11:44:37 PM »

mali po pala ung ginawa ko??
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2010, 12:08:28 AM »



ganito po ba dapat??

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