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« on: February 18, 2010, 08:58:31 AM »

napansin ko yung ibang speakers

may pinatong na isa pang magnet para mag double

pwede ba nating gayahin ito sa isang speaker para lumakas?  Grin
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 10:22:52 AM »

matagal q na rin 2 sis pinag iisipan, parang balak q 2loy baklasin ung 12' na subwoofer q sa bahay...
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2010, 07:47:03 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 06:47:10 PM »

 wait muna bgo kyo magbaklas ng mga speaker,
 
 first once na tinagal nyo magnet dun sa magnetic circuit (toplate, polepiece, backplate) it can loose as muchas 3-5% ng flux sa magnetic gap pwera na lng kung ireremagnitize nyo after ng assembly

 second kailangan magfabricate kyo ng mas mahabang pole piece because of the height ng na napadagdag ng added na magnet, kailangan nyo din malaman kung ano din ang number ng steel na ginamit sa magnetic circuit i.e. 1066 10xx series, deltamax or invar. magbabago kc ang BH curve ng magnetic circuit if hindi sila exactly the same series ang steel.

 usually ang double stacking ng magnet ay nag iincrease ng 30% na available na flux pero it does not mean na magiging "mas malakas ang speaker" may kinalaman din ang magnetic geometry ng pole piece at toplate kung naifofocus nyang mabuti ang flux dun sa voicecoil which translate to a much sensitive driver
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 06:50:33 AM »

ah so hindi pala basta basta magpaptung ng magnet sa likod ng speaker

ngew, pero meron bang paraan para mapalakas kaunti ang speaker?

(naririnig ko sa mga sabi-sabi na kapalan daw ang coil, its true?)
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 12:51:55 PM »

 a u mean ung bucking magnet, ung purpose sir nun ay pra wag mag interfere ung mga stray na magnetic flux sa mga CRT mas cheap kc i implement e2 kaysa mga metal can shield like dun sa mga tv set, its a way of "contour shielding" the lines of flux para d makapag cause ng interference sa mga nearby CRT's.

 pwede kapalan ang wire ng vcoil kung magfifit 2 sa gap but there is a catch.

 first liliit ang clearance ng voice coil between the toplate at sa polepiece which could lead to voice coil rubbing dun sa toplate at high excursion. ung clearance na un ay para sa "lateral" movement ng voice coil to compensate dun sa non linearity ng spider suspension at surround or edges.

 second baba ang impedance ng speaker mo since your gonna use a magnet wire with a larger cross section for a given winding depth.

 third if you want to maintain the original impedance of the speaker by lengthening the winding depth of the voice coil (hence more turns of wire) it would bottom earlier than the original vcoil due to the added length of the winding. Again no free lunch.     
         
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 01:05:32 PM »

number of turns-size of wire-allignment

yan ang importante po sa coil rewinding

pwd naman na palakihin ung magnetic wire basta sure ka na ndi sasayad sa lood at dapat

maibalik mo sa dating impedance yun coil

sa mga double magnet naman ang ginamit sa palagay ko mas nauna ang production ng magnet size kesa sa design kaya ginawa na pinagpatong nalang.
pwd naman nilang gawing isa lang ang magnet tulad ng mga naunang spkr na makakapal ang magnet kaso
nahuli marahil ang design sa ganun kaya pinagpatong nalang yung 2 magnet

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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 06:09:21 PM »

 kya nila pinagpatong ang magnet ay para makagamit sila ng longer voice coil which means longer excursion, longer excursion means that the speaker would be capable of reproducing the low and the subass region without running out of Xmax.

 second mas madali implement ang stacking magnet compare sa pagpapamachine ng mga bumped backplate. Practical lng ang bumped backplate kung ang toplate at backplate thickness ay 5mm pwede pa kc gamitan to ng metal press/stamping     
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 07:49:11 PM »

may nasira akong mid na speaker na may nakapatong na magnet sa likod, ng palitan ko ito (ibang brand) tinanggal ko yong nakapatong na magnet sa sirang speaker at inilagay ko sa bagong speaker, napansin ko may konting enhancement sa tunog nito kaysa wala yong additional na magnet, napansin ko rin dapat pala naka-repel yong additional na magnet sa likod.   
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2010, 11:12:58 AM »

salamat mga sis ngaun maliwanag na hehehe
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