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« on: February 04, 2010, 01:44:35 AM »

Matagal ko na pong gustong subukan gawing hobby ang radio comm using handheld VHF/UHF transceiver. Mahilig lang po sa mga gadgets. Gusto ko lang pong gamitin ito for recreational purpose ( makipag-usap sa ere). Kelangan pa po bang kumuha ng NTC license para magamit ko ang Yaesu VX-6R handheld? Ano po ba ang usual range ng VHF/UHF handheld? Pwede po bang mag-communicate between 2 handhelds? Anong klaseng antenna ang pwedeng gamitin para ma-boost ang RX/TX ( kung nasa bahay lang at kung mobile na nasa kotse)? salamat po ng marami sa kung sino mang sasagot.
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2010, 02:54:56 AM »

^^ mostly kasi ang isang portable radio o handheld radio ay may power output na 5watts..

kung mababa sa 5watts output ng radio mo hindi mo na kailangan ng NTC license..

kung gagamit karin its either HF / VHF / UHF at may mga masasagasaan kang Other Freq. user, yun din kailangan mo ng license..

mostly din kinakailangan lang naman ang NTC license ng radio mo para maiwasan yung tinatawag na "jammer user" and para maiwasan din yung agawan ng iisang freq.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2010, 05:35:02 PM »

Salamat po ng marami Mr. Kartar. Nagpabili kasi ako ng Yaesu VX-6R sa kapatid ko sa USA. Kaya medyo nagbabasa ng konti para matuto. Ano ba ang pinakamagandang website puntahan para malaman ang mga technical jargons na ginagamit ng mga hams?
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 06:59:34 PM »

http://www.ac6v.com/jargon.htm
http://www.qsl.net/w5www/qcode.html
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 10:11:38 PM »

Thanks po Sir Zero. Mapuntahan nga ito Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 11:54:02 PM »

Sir technotoni para mapalakas po ung RX/TX ng isang radio transceiver kailngan ng external antenna. Dalawang klase ung external... ung tinatawag na Omni at directional. Example ng omni ay yung F23 or ringo ranger... at marami pang iba. Ung directional naman ay ang mga  yagi antennas. Depende na sa choice nyo... at kung mobile naman pwede rin gumamit ng mobile antenna, example and commonly used ay ung larsen mobile antenna...

To further boost naman ung RX/TX e need po niyo gumamit ng tinatawag natin na booster or  linear amplifier... ibig sabihin pwede mo iboost ung receive at transmit depende sa output wattage ng booster.

And additional... we can now expand the RXTX range capabilities ng mag radio transceiver natin thru the global link gamit ang internet connection. For example ung nasa America pwede mo makausap using your transceiver.

Hope makatulong. Cheesy  Cheesy


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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 01:28:47 AM »

Sir Simatar, maraming salamat sa paliwanag nyo. I suppose makikita ko itong mga accessories sa Raon or meron pa bang mas mainam puntahan. Interested to know more about the Global link using internet connection. Ano po ba ang mga kailngan ko? Salamat po muli sa sinomang sasagot. Sorry at talagang bagito lang po Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2010, 08:50:36 PM »

magandang araw sa iyo.
una basta may radio ka talagang kailangan ng license kahit 1watt lang output power mo...
dahil pag nakumpiska ng NTC yan at sila lang naman ang may karapatan na magkumpiska nyan (tandaan mo NTC lang ang may karapatan mag kumpiska ng radio mo ala nang iba)

para naman mapalakas o siguro mapalayo ang gusto mong makausap sa radio mo eh tama si sir simatar, base antenna lang ang kailangan mo. at kung gusto mo pang mas malakas ay rf amplifier o booster kung tawagin.

karamihan sa raon meron kang makikitang accessories, sa bandang ongping st. halos dikit dikit sila doon.

anong frequency kaba nag operate? dito kalang ba sa metro manila? ikot ikot karin sa iba ibang frequency mag amateur users minsan nag bebenta sila nang mga gamit nila.

kung hindi ka nagmamadali gawa kalang muna nang quarter wave antenna madali lang yun nasa internet info. or yung mismong rubber duck antenna mo gamitin mo as external (ginawa ko na ito larsen rubber duck nilagay ko sa bubong naka kabit sa magnetmount) okay din resulta manila tarlac kausap ko mahina nga lang pero importante nagkaintindihan kame Q5 audio S1 to S2 signal. not bad for a hand held radio.

good luck sa iyo at enjoy mo lang ang hobby
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 09:43:15 PM »

permission OT

Sir pinoy cobra location mo? May mga nakaka usap din ako direct sa Tarlac... my location is ilocos norte...  my radio antenna is 13 elements yung Cushcraft na 13B2 boomer...
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 11:11:33 AM »

OT din
loc: Manila 3rd floor ang magnetmount rubber duck larsen antenna IC 02AT radio sa 144.180 Mhz ko po nakausap yung mga taga tarlac pero may jamming device na yung frequency ngayon eh kaya sa commercial frequency ako tumatambay ngayon Wink
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2010, 02:08:43 PM »

Ngayon lang uli nakadalaw dito sa Forum. Maraming salamat sir Simatar and Pinoycobra sa magandang paliwanag.Bumili ako ng magnet mount at kinabit ko yung Diamond SG7100 antenna. Nilagay ko sa bubong at VOILA! Lumakas ang coverage.Enjoy ako dito sa hobby na ito. Ano po ba ang magandang brand/ model ng base radio? MAy nagre-recommend ng Icom 2200 + F23 antenna. Pero as a newbie, meron pa ho bang mas mainam dito?
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2010, 06:54:16 PM »

ok yang SG7100 sir... ganyan dati gamit ko. Ang naging problema lang e mabigat yan . Lagi natutumba. 3" diameter lang kasi magnet mount ko dati.Kaya ayan gamit ko na lang indoor for troubleshooting purposes.

About sa icom IC2200 so far wala pa problema ung friend ko gumagamit ganyan. Ok yan 65 watts yata output kung di ako nagkakamali. wide din freq range.

Regarding naman sa F23, naku sir! dito inaayawan namin kasi takaw kidlat yan na antenna. Base sa mga nakita ko na antenna tinamaan ng kidlat halos lahat F23. Grin
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2010, 01:31:30 PM »

Thanks sir Simatar. Ano po bang antenna ang maganda?Delikado pala ang F23
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2010, 03:55:45 PM »

Technotoni

Hello, magandang hobby ang radio or amateur radio, here you can meet friends.

You have good radio a yaesu radio even portable pag nilagyan mo ng external antenna it will reach further station, theres a lot of antenna you can buy sa raon, the X, F and CP series of diamond antenna. CP22E is a aluminum antenna if you dont want a fiberglass antenna get this CP-22E. But its a single band only. to maximize the use of your portable radio buy the X series diamond, lahat sila is dual bander. About kidlat best way to over come it is remove the antenna from the radio while your away or during thunder storm. Even the aluminum type tinatamaan din ng kidlat believe me i have seen them all. Swertihan na lang talaga kung tatamaan ang antenna or not.

Good luck and consider joining an amateur radio group and get a license you will learn proper use of the radio, iam too dont have an amateur call sign before, but i did my best to have a license. now iam a class B license holder. Been into radio for more than 20yrs now.

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2010, 09:41:15 PM »

tama sila, kung gusto mo magiging hobby ang amature radio kailangan ka kumuha ng NTC amature exam para mas lalo mong maintindihan about your hobby. ako din dati panay modulate lang sa mga colorum freq. dati. pero masarap talaga kung meron kang license. iwas sita kung baga. for more info go to PARA website. about the IC2200 may ups and downs kasi. ang ic2200 wala available na pyesa sa ngayon. so wag mu sirain or  i recommend kenwood TM271A 60 watts  medyo mas mura din kaysa Ic2200
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2010, 08:50:36 PM »

Sirs GX and K88D. Thanks sa mga tips and really appreciate your reply. Bought my Antenna from Annesdel Marketing sa Raon. Meron pa bang mas murang tindahan kaysa dito? TIA
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2010, 09:53:22 AM »

Ilang pa-alala.

Amateur radio is fun but you have to be responsible too.


Pag balak mong magtayo ng kahit na anong antenna. kailangan mayroon kang epektibong ground system.Although no lightning protection system is foolproof, meron naman minimum recommendations na dapat sundin. kahit na yong nagkakabit ng tlephone line o cable tv or dsl line sa bahay nyo, nag lalagay ng groundsystem kahit papaano.

You should start with identifying a good ground connection like a cold water piupe o kaya magbaon ng ground rod o ground sheet. doon mo ikakabit and ground wire mo na nakakabit naman sa antenna mast o tower mo. meron antenna na by their design dc ground. meron naman floating . mas hindi tamain ng kdlat and dc-ground. maraming fiberglass radome antenna na madalas tamaan ng kidlat kasi nag a acumulate ng static charge ang radome nya sa pag daan ng hangin. these charges if not shunted to ground may go up to may thousands or millions of dc volts and enoung to attract a lightning discharge.
kung hf wire antenna. dapat ang shield ng coax mo grounded. kung meron "floating" element ppweden mong i-shunt to ground ito by means of high value resistors to bleed andy static charge. kung balance line naman ang gamit mo pilitin na nakaground ang neutral connection sa balun transformer. itong balun ay karaniwan nasa may bintana.

Malaking pakinabang ng ground system at sulit ang panahon na gugugulin sa pag aral at pag install nito. you will not only save your equimpent but your house and your life and those of others in your home if you install an antenna ground system.

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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2010, 09:53:16 PM »

Sirs GX and K88D. Thanks sa mga tips and really appreciate your reply. Bought my Antenna from Annesdel Marketing sa Raon. Meron pa bang mas murang tindahan kaysa dito? TIA


sa unico, radiotech, solar, radiocom, try mo i compare ang price, tas ung mobile antenna naman try mo sa deeco sa 3rd floor may mga old stock na antenna dun bagsak presyo..
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2010, 07:14:16 AM »

Kung kulang ka sa budget o kaya'y gusto mo na challenge, bakit hindi ka mag homebrew ng antenna. Ang isang pinaka madaling gawin ay ang coax collinear antenna.




Yes it is made out of coax cable here is one of many websites that discuss the antenna:

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/sideband/collinear.html

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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2010, 01:16:00 PM »

Technotoni

Maraming store where to buy antennas in Raon, but be carefull kasi may fake na antenna, mostly sa diamond antennas, i myself have difficulties in identifiying fake or not. Kaya get it from a reputable store.Some store are honest they sell both fake and orig but they ask the buyer what they want to buy. So always ask if its the original one. For the radio, TM 271 of kenwood is ok but our experience with it is weak audio, we even installed a amplifier / power mic but still mahina pa din ang TX audio compare sa icom IC2200. Both radio will last long if properly used naman, kaya lang there are pros and cons of both radios.


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