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« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2010, 03:50:43 PM »

nageenjoy ako sa post na ito!!! wahahaha may ganyan din akong project eh kaso battery naman ang kailangan ko iswitch tapos connected to solar panel. di ko ma multisim eh. hehehe post ko ung multisim ko baka pwede rin ako magtanong sa post na ito.
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« Reply #61 on: May 29, 2010, 04:01:25 PM »



ito po ung circuit... di ko masimulate huhuhuhu... gusto ko sana siya ibreadboard sa monday eh.. para maimplement ko na rin sa project ko... patulong naman hehe kung bakit di masimulate???
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« Reply #62 on: May 29, 2010, 09:55:13 PM »

ok na!!! nasimulate ko na ung multisim hehehe tnx!!!
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« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2010, 09:00:58 PM »

ok lang po bah mag gmit nang bc547 kay sa 2n2222?
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« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2010, 09:04:11 PM »

ok lang po bah mag gmit nang bc547 kay sa 2n2222?

for what use? To drive relays? yup pwede
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« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2010, 09:18:53 PM »

yep pwede nga! pero question may internal base resistance na ba siya??? kasi kung ganun mas ok un kaysa 2n222 na wala pa hahaha. curious lang.
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« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2010, 09:24:15 PM »

Internal resistance ng BC547 transistor? It shouldnt really matter in your design, except current capability, saturation voltage, etc. for switching applications like relay drivers
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« Reply #67 on: August 30, 2010, 09:44:39 PM »

Hopefully, you can get from this.



also, be sure that the contact rating is rated to be able to work with 220Vac.


Hello mga sirs! Ask ko lang po ginawa ko ang ganitong circuit to control an AC 220V motor by microcontroller to turn in a specific time intervals pero may pagkakataon na bigla na lang nagha-hang ang circuit at steady na lang na naka-on at wala ng intervals. Pag naturn off ang power ng MCU at ini-on uli saka lang babalik ang intervals. Ano po kaya ang dahilan bakit nagkakaganun? Thanks po sa sagot.
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« Reply #68 on: August 30, 2010, 09:47:19 PM »

^ contact's sticking. get a big bad ass relay. bigger is better sa application mo.
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« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2010, 09:20:12 AM »

^ contact's sticking. get a big bad ass relay. bigger is better sa application mo.

Sir Boss, I'm sure hindi siya contact sticking... kasi nagkabit din ako ng LED sa isa sa mga output ng MCU (independent sa relay) to indicate the control pulses at ganun din nage-steady rin siya kasabay ng relay.
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« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2010, 10:49:04 AM »

^ the more probable cause is electrical noise from the AC/Motor line affecting your microcontroller.. What MCU are you using? How about the circuit or PCB layout? Dapat malayo yung MCU sa relay driver (and AC line)
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« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2010, 11:56:03 AM »



from this topic...
http://www.electronicslab.ph/forum/index.php?topic=15651.20  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2010, 05:38:15 PM »

^ the more probable cause is electrical noise from the AC/Motor line affecting your microcontroller.. What MCU are you using? How about the circuit or PCB layout? Dapat malayo yung MCU sa relay driver (and AC line)
Sir Paranz,  z86 otp po ang ginamit ko. Kung gagamit po ba ng PIC sa same circuit na na post previously hindi mangyayari ito? Ang PIC po ba ay hindi kasing sensitive ng Z86 otp? At saka when you say dapat malayo ang MCU sa relay gaano po kaya ang distance na safe? Thanks.
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« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2010, 06:52:50 PM »

^ yup zilog is much more susceptible to EMI compared to other MCUs like PIC, based on experience.

Check this thread for a sample application board with MCU and relays.

http://www.electronicslab.ph/forum/index.php/topic,16367.msg289458.html#msg289458
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« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2010, 09:27:29 AM »

Thank you Sirs Paranz and Boss Don Martin for your kind replies.
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« Reply #75 on: September 01, 2010, 09:39:59 AM »

wag mo din sir kalimutan maglagay ng 0.1uF near vcc at gnd ng mcu mo.
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« Reply #76 on: September 08, 2010, 01:03:07 AM »

kung talagang malakas pa rin, try using optoisolators at maglagay ng slit sa ilalim nung opto. for conducted noise kasi, nag-act as efficient antenna 'yung coil sa relay, tulad nga ng AM antenna na coil lang din, laya kailangan talaga ng noise suppression at AC grounding techniques sa MCU side.
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« Reply #77 on: September 08, 2010, 09:16:52 AM »

kung talagang malakas pa rin, try using optoisolators at maglagay ng slit sa ilalim nung opto. for conducted noise kasi, nag-act as efficient antenna 'yung coil sa relay, tulad nga ng AM antenna na coil lang din, laya kailangan talaga ng noise suppression at AC grounding techniques sa MCU side.
Sir sorry, hindi ko ma get yung slit sa ilalim ng opto. Nasubukan ko na rin gumamit ng opto and it solved the problem (I think) pero bago yung sinabi mo. Paano po ba yun sir?
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« Reply #78 on: September 08, 2010, 10:09:27 AM »

kung talagang malakas pa rin, try using optoisolators at maglagay ng slit sa ilalim nung opto. for conducted noise kasi, nag-act as efficient antenna 'yung coil sa relay, tulad nga ng AM antenna na coil lang din, laya kailangan talaga ng noise suppression at AC grounding techniques sa MCU side.

ahhh... kaya pala yung mga SMPS may slit sa ilalim.... at kaya pala yung mga footprints ng optoisolators ay masyadong magkahiwalay (compare sa ordinary DIP package)

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Sir sorry, hindi ko ma get yung slit sa ilalim ng opto. Nasubukan ko na rin gumamit ng opto and it solved the problem (I think) pero bago yung sinabi mo. Paano po ba yun sir?

Slit... as in may biyak yung PCB!
pero, kung nagwork na din naman, hayaan mo na. heheh Grin
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« Reply #79 on: September 08, 2010, 10:49:46 AM »

^ yup. kung nagworl na, pwede na. Grin

bale provision for creepage 'yung slit. for hi-pot talaga, pero for noise, hindi direct dielectric ang dadaanan.

ahhh... kaya pala yung mga SMPS may slit sa ilalim.... at kaya pala yung mga footprints ng optoisolators ay masyadong magkahiwalay (compare sa ordinary DIP package)

meron na rin akong mga nakitang design na pati pagitan ng paa ng MOSFET linalagyan ng slit. Grin
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