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« on: November 23, 2009, 02:00:19 PM »

Ang design po kasi namin is about a softdrinks Dispenser.. "Magic Touch Dispenser" ang title kasi touch screen po. Kaso, we need a circuit na pag nag input ka ng isa... dalawang pulse ang ibabato nya... Sa pagdidispense po kasi namin gagamitin... Kung halimbawa 3 ang nakasulat sa button na pinindut... ung button allocated for number 3 is one input pero dapat ung button na yun.. magbato ng 3 pulse para 3 times na magdispense ang dispenser.. puro elex at mechanical po ito... wala pong interfacing... mas madali nga po sana kung may interfacing eh... kaso di naman po practical sa isang dispenser ang may computer di ba??? Smiley Smiley Smiley

ang gulo yata... i hope napalabas ko ang main thought... Embarrassed Embarrassed

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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 02:21:08 PM »

Ang design po kasi namin is about a softdrinks Dispenser.. "Magic Touch Dispenser" ang title kasi touch screen po. Kaso, we need a circuit na pag nag input ka ng isa... dalawang pulse ang ibabato nya... Sa pagdidispense po kasi namin gagamitin... Kung halimbawa 3 ang nakasulat sa button na pinindut... ung button allocated for number 3 is one input pero dapat ung button na yun.. magbato ng 3 pulse para 3 times na magdispense ang dispenser.. puro elex at mechanical po ito... wala pong interfacing... mas madali nga po sana kung may interfacing eh... kaso di naman po practical sa isang dispenser ang may computer di ba??? Smiley Smiley Smiley

ang gulo yata... i hope napalabas ko ang main thought... Embarrassed Embarrassed

thanks in advance.. Kiss Kiss

Hanep touch screen pa talaga, bakit di na lang ordinary buttons? Magulo ang post mo brod, pwede enumerate mo na lang in numbers yung idea mo?
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 02:26:29 PM »

touch screen para maiba naman.. Smiley Smiley... Magulo po ba???  Embarrassed Embarrassed.. Hirap explain eh.. hmmmm  Sad Sad
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 02:27:58 PM »

Hanep touch screen pa talaga, bakit di na lang ordinary buttons? Magulo ang post mo brod, pwede enumerate mo na lang in numbers yung idea mo?

haha ibig nya po sabihin ay ganito:
wari mo may pagpipilian kang button..1...2...at 3..pag pinress mo ung 2 dapat dalawa ung lalabas na drinks pag 3 naman tatlo dapat..gagamit ata sila solenoid eh...di sila gagamit ng kahit anong pic o mcu,logic circuit lang tama ba???naghahanap siya ng way na pag pinress nya ung 2 tas dispense dalawa dapat lalabas.. Grin Huh
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 02:32:46 PM »

haha ibig nya po sabihin ay ganito:
wari mo may pagpipilian kang button..1...2...at 3..pag pinress mo ung 2 dapat dalawa ung lalabas na drinks pag 3 naman tatlo dapat..gagamit ata sila solenoid eh...di sila gagamit ng kahit anong pic o mcu,logic circuit lang tama ba???naghahanap siya ng way na pag pinress nya ung 2 tas dispense dalawa dapat lalabas.. Grin Huh


hahaha!!! parang di kagroup ah..
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 02:33:57 PM »

haha ibig nya po sabihin ay ganito:
wari mo may pagpipilian kang button..1...2...at 3..pag pinress mo ung 2 dapat dalawa ung lalabas na drinks pag 3 naman tatlo dapat..gagamit ata sila solenoid eh...di sila gagamit ng kahit anong pic o mcu,logic circuit lang tama ba???naghahanap siya ng way na pag pinress nya ung 2 tas dispense dalawa dapat lalabas.. Grin Huh


haha.. parang di kagroup ah..
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 02:47:40 PM »

haha ibig nya po sabihin ay ganito:
wari mo may pagpipilian kang button..1...2...at 3..pag pinress mo ung 2 dapat dalawa ung lalabas na drinks pag 3 naman tatlo dapat..gagamit ata sila solenoid eh...di sila gagamit ng kahit anong pic o mcu,logic circuit lang tama ba???naghahanap siya ng way na pag pinress nya ung 2 tas dispense dalawa dapat lalabas.. Grin Huh

Ah kung idividual ang signal ng mga buttons, for example signal 1, signal 2, signal 3 ganun ba?

Kung ganun at solenoid ang gagamitin eh di ganito ang setup:
   Request 1 = Button 1 pressed, so "Solenoid 1 on"
   Request 2 = Button 2 pressed, so "Solenoid 2 and Solenoid 1 ON"
   Request 3 = Button 3 pressed, so "solenoid 3 and Solenoid 2 and Solenoid 3 ON"

So that means and logic ng solenoids ay ganito:
   Solenoid 1 ON if "signal 1 or signal 2 or signal 3 is high or logic 1"
   Solenoid 2 ON if "signal 2 or signal 3 is logic 1"
   Solenoid 3 ON if "signal 3 is logic 1"
   etc.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 02:53:59 PM »

Ah kung idividual ang signal ng mga buttons, for example signal 1, signal 2, signal 3 ganun ba?

Kung ganun at solenoid ang gagamitin eh di ganito ang setup:
   Request 1 = Button 1 pressed, so "Solenoid 1 on"
   Request 2 = Button 2 pressed, so "Solenoid 2 and Solenoid 1 ON"
   Request 3 = Button 3 pressed, so "solenoid 3 and Solenoid 2 and Solenoid 3 ON"

So that means and logic ng solenoids ay ganito:
   Solenoid 1 ON if "signal 1 or signal 2 or signal 3 is high or logic 1"
   Solenoid 2 ON if "signal 2 or signal 3 is logic 1"
   Solenoid 3 ON if "signal 3 is logic 1"
   etc.

magastos naman po yun.. Smiley Smiley Smiley
one solenoid.. three buttons po dapat.
then, if button 3 is pressed, yung solenoid po dapat mag-actuate ng 3 times..and so as if button 2 is pressed...
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2009, 10:23:41 PM »

This project can be best implemented using PLC instead of MCU. There are such kind of LCD that supports discrete inputs and output suitable for your application.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2009, 10:32:18 PM »

mag microcontroller na lang kau. pahihirapan nyo pa sarili nyo pambihira.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2009, 01:50:26 PM »

mag microcontroller na lang kau. pahihirapan nyo pa sarili nyo pambihira.



ahehe...yun na po kasi nasa proposal namin eh...syaka para medyo may challenge...hehehe. thanks po ah...
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ahehe...yun na po kasi nasa proposal namin eh...syaka para medyo may challenge...hehehe. thanks po ah...

Nagawa nyo na ba? Meron na ba kayo idea kung paano?
Ganito naisip ko, kung di kayo gagamit ng any MCU at Logic ICs lang ang gagamitin, kailangan nyong gayahin ang functionality ng MCU using logic circuits like kailangan nyo ng count down or count up counter, comparator, etc.


Yung counter should count up or count down for every pulse sent to the solenoid.

Yung comparator eh pag nag press ng 3, yung comparator value should be compared to "0" if count down counter or compared to 3 if count up counter.

Sana makatulong, tagal ko na di nakareply. Nagawa nyo na ba mga kapatid itong project nyo?
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 03:46:38 PM »

any update sa project nyo?

sosyal naman yan, may touch screen pa... Grin

kung di kayo gagamit ng pc or mcu, eh di ang magiging purpose lang ng touch screen ay switch.

ang nakikita kong problema dyan ay kung paano nyo ikakabit ang touch screen sa logic circuit at ang presyo ng touch screen.

unless meron kayong mabibiling murang touch screen na may output na puede nyong ikabit direkta sa logic circuit or homebrew touch screen.

puede rin kayong gumamit ng logic circuit + 1-solenoid + mechanical can pusher (na ipu-push ng solenoid depende sa position ng softdrinks nyo).

dun sa logic circuit, hintay lang sa iba pang maaaring makatulong.  try ko gumawa pag nagka-chance.

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 06:20:25 PM »

are you sure you're going to use touchscreen without using mcu, plc, or a computer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen is a computer input device and a display screen in one.  You'll need at least an mcu to operate that.

Maybe what you are trying to say is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_switch
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 09:54:28 AM »

Nagawa nyo na ba? Meron na ba kayo idea kung paano?
Ganito naisip ko, kung di kayo gagamit ng any MCU at Logic ICs lang ang gagamitin, kailangan nyong gayahin ang functionality ng MCU using logic circuits like kailangan nyo ng count down or count up counter, comparator, etc.


Yung counter should count up or count down for every pulse sent to the solenoid.

Yung comparator eh pag nag press ng 3, yung comparator value should be compared to "0" if count down counter or compared to 3 if count up counter.

Sana makatulong, tagal ko na di nakareply. Nagawa nyo na ba mga kapatid itong project nyo?



Kasalukuyan pong ginagawa.. Senxa din po ngaun lang ulit nakapag log-in... Dagdag isipin din po kasi ang preboard...

thanks po sa help...Subukan po naming gawin at pag aralan ang sinasabi nyo..

any update sa project nyo?

sosyal naman yan, may touch screen pa... Grin

kung di kayo gagamit ng pc or mcu, eh di ang magiging purpose lang ng touch screen ay switch.

ang nakikita kong problema dyan ay kung paano nyo ikakabit ang touch screen sa logic circuit at ang presyo ng touch screen.

unless meron kayong mabibiling murang touch screen na may output na puede nyong ikabit direkta sa logic circuit or homebrew touch screen.

puede rin kayong gumamit ng logic circuit + 1-solenoid + mechanical can pusher (na ipu-push ng solenoid depende sa position ng softdrinks nyo).

dun sa logic circuit, hintay lang sa iba pang maaaring makatulong.  try ko gumawa pag nagka-chance.



di po kami bibili ng touchscreen eh... gagawin po namin un using IR...
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2009, 10:37:09 AM »

counter at oscillator. kapag pinindot 'yung 1 ang set sa counter 1 ang bilang, 2 then 2 sa counter, etc.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 02:48:34 PM »

are you sure you're going to use touchscreen without using mcu, plc, or a computer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen is a computer input device and a display screen in one.  You'll need at least an mcu to operate that.

Maybe what you are trying to say is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_switch


Ang ginawa yata nila bro, hiniwalay nila yung discussion about sa touch screen para ma-mini-mize yung complications.

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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 02:56:03 PM »

Ang ginawa yata nila bro, hiniwalay nila yung discussion about sa touch screen para ma-mini-mize yung complications.



right po... actually, kasalukuyan pong tinetest ng mga groupmates ko yung circuit ng touch screen...separate ang pag gawa sa mismong dispenser...syaka na lang namin sya pagkokonekin..
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2009, 03:12:00 PM »

bale matrix po ang mangyayari sa IR
IR X Y Z
A  1 2 3
B  4 5 6
c  7 8 9
kapag napress yung 1, ibig sabihin po nablock nya yung X and A...
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2009, 07:48:17 PM »

gumawa na kami dati nyan,

press button 1 beer ang lalabas

press button 2 beer at gin ang lalabas

press button 3 beer - gin at tonic ang lalabas

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