Difference between the job of a electronics engineer to a electronic technician

[dy7flt]

Mga engineers, kayo bay naging technician muna bago naging engineer, o naging engineer muna bago naging technician?  Pag dati kayong technician at ngayon ay engineer na, cgurado ako hahanap-hanapin nyo pa rin ang trabaho ng pagiging technician.  I-supervise nyo na lang mga technicians nyo, pag merong hindi marunong mag install at mag orient ng rotating yagi antenna, turu-an nyo na lang kong paano.  Kayo namang mga engineer lang na walang alam sa technical job, try to learn from your technicians.  Sa kanila mo lang matutunan mga pasikot-sikot sa trabaho

[rdpzycho]

yup...tama nga yan...

but not all engineers have the same job...

in the R&D field most of us do what we design...from concept, design, prototyping, soldering, testing, and monitoring...and most of the times we also do our own repairs and patches until everything is completely documented...hence, we are also the ones who put our concepts to reality...

a single field cannot refer to all and may not be a reference for generalization...my boss designs antennas at siya rin nagto-torno ng mga un...just like some composers are also singers...

admittedly, we lack some skills in repairing things that we did not design and I admire the technician's ability to work around these things...we're lazy in doing that and most of the times pre-occupied by other things...

engineers and technicians go hand in hand...as an article in snubbers say "...engineers must not snub their technicians..." 

just my two cents...

[goko]

engineer-henyo/magaling/mapera/magaling mag utos

technician-marunong/hands on sa  work./kulang lagi ang pera/nakikinig sa utos

[WildSwan]

Ganito sabi ng prof ko sa Mapua... Sa pag gawa ng bahay, may Arkitek at may Karpentero. Si Arkitek, trabaho nya isipin kung saan ilalagay, paano, gaano kalaki, etc ang isang pintuan. Si Karpentero naman ang taga gawa ng pintuan ayon sa specs ni Arkitek.

Hehehe

labo ba?

In essence, Engineer has the responsibility of designing a circuit. Once needed, a technician can study the design of the engineer to troubleshoot the circuit.

An engineer can be a technician while a technician can never be an engineer. A technician just do not have the disciplines the engineer has.

[dy7flt]

An engineer can be a technician while a technician can never be an engineer. A technician just do not have the disciplines the engineer has.

Sang-ayon ako nito.  Pero pinagtataka ko lang noong technician(industrial electronics and electrical) pa ako sa isang galvanizing and steel poles co. sa saudi, wala kaming electrical or electronics engineer.  Yong lighting control system ng isang poste kasama na pati layout at specs ng mga placement at arrangement ng mga contactors para sa motor, ako ang pina design na dapat gawain ng isang electrical engineer.  Simple ohms lang ginamit ko.  Pina autocad namin yong electrical wiring diagram, pina check sa isang authorized quality control ng middle east, pumasa naman according to their engineering standard, ginawa namin, kinabit sa poste, tenesting at ini-inspection, at nag bigay ng go signal for mass production.  Noong andoon pa ako, nakagawa kami ng around 15 units, pag-alis ko (finish contract na kasi) gumawa pa cla ng additional 50 using my design.  Ngayong engineer na ako, local area network palang na design kasama na pati installation, operation and maintenance ang nagawa ko.  Ay! meron pa pala, isang VHF (2 Meter Band) Antenna System for Two-Way Radio using 2 stacks 9 element YAGI with double 5/8 omnidirectional antenna.

[rov1976]

sa tingin ko mga sir/ma'am isang tabi muna nating ang pagiging ma-ere, sa field at sa actual na trabaho ndi puede yung tinatapakan mo lahat kahit na ikaw pa ang amo, kelangan may respeto ang mga technician sa engineer nya ganun din naman ang engineer sa tao nya... gaya nga nung sinabi nung mga kabayan natin d2 kailangan may team work para matapos agad ng tama ang trabaho... ang well experience na technician wala ng argumento dun ndi talaga kayang tapatan ng mga engineer ang skills nya lalo na sa field at kung yung engr eh fresh meat pa lang... pero ndi nangangahulugan na magaling na si technician dahil kabisado na nya yung equipment at instrumento... bagkus turuan nya si engineer para smooth ang peer-to-peer relationship at matapos nila yung trabaho ng maaga... napakaraming bagay na puede nating ipagkumpara engr vs tech. pero ang ultimate goal natin is UTP vs time (up-to-production), bale wala ang galing natin (engr/tech) kung puro lang tayu salita heheh... 

[rdpzycho]

nami-miss ko mga technician na kasama ko dati, puro kami kalokohan pag walang nakakakita...

wala kasi kaming technician ngayon, hindi kaya ng budget namin...

[aying]

engineers=study why a work is done
technicians= study how a work is done

[gentleman]

Para sa akin,
ENGINEER are those who thinks how to solve a certain problem (engineers are critical thinkers!!!)
TECHNICIAN are those who troubleshoot in a problem. they know the technical terms in electronics

but we as an engineer must also know the job of technician.
why? how can you invent something by yourself if you don't know how an specific things work.

[7_SeVeN_7]

may mga technicians na parang engineer kung mag-isip.. kaya napopromote sila sa level na engineers sa mga company...

[rdpzycho]

may mga technicians na parang engineer kung mag-isip.. kaya napopromote sila sa level na engineers sa mga company...

some of them even become managers.

[hiccup]

sa semicon,


ang engineers, they handle the process, product development, machine utilization....
kumbaga, panay utak...

ang mga technicians, normally, sila ung taga-maintain, repair, ng mga machines for production.
minsan sila din ung mga hands-on sa pag process nga mga product, kumbaga, sila ung nag-actual na nagru-run ng mga samples dun sa process na defined ng engineers..

ok din ung technician ka muna bago ka maging engineer. un nga halos ang kalakaran dito sa semicon (o sa company lang namin?!?!hehe) may mga school naman na nag-ooffer ng ladderized program kung saan pwede mong i-pursue ang technician course mo sa engineering course.


....sana nakatulong!

[myklagria]

kala u lahat ng engr magaling  but magaling lang magsalita utos  d2 utos don halos lahat kayang gawin pero ang gagawa naman ung technician. pag may prob. ang technician ang aayos. i was working in a cable company pero ang lahat ng kaalaman me is b'cuz f my long year's of hard work and experience trouble shooting etc. etc. pero ang engr namin ang alam mag sipsip sa bos...

[RaffT]

^hehehe calm down

ganyan talaga yan... some engineers may tell you this-n-that.. pero NOTHING beats years of experience na natutunan mo... they might not SEE things not shown in simulation , that SHOWS in actual hardware..

tama nga sila, electricians and engineers go hand-in-hand(not holding hands )

ako more on hands-on experience din <what I have learned, bookmark agad sa utak ko>

pero It does not hurt learning a few things from our engineers (lalo na kung may computations involved) I appreciate that

nasa iyo nalang yan how you will balance things...

Technicians = LEARNS from reverse-engineering things <how they work> w/o a schematic diagram
Engineers = DESIGNS things to make it work

[eveready battery]

kala u lahat ng engr magaling  but magaling lang magsalita utos  d2 utos don halos lahat kayang gawin pero ang gagawa naman ung technician. pag may prob. ang technician ang aayos. i was working in a cable company pero ang lahat ng kaalaman me is b'cuz f my long year's of hard work and experience trouble shooting etc. etc. pero ang engr namin ang alam mag sipsip sa bos...

meron talagang taong ganun magaling lang mag utos basta sila ang boss kahit hindi engineer,saka yung sipsip yun ang alam nilang paraan para umangat,typical na ugali ng ibang pinoy tulad ng sa gobyerno natin.marami talagang ganun sa lahat ng working environment kahit hindi engineering.

nakikita ko lang engineer at technician,yung engineer ay mas mabigat dapat yung responsibility nya sa work compared sa technician,halimbawa may hawak sya mga technician dapat i guide nya ng tamang management,technical aspects at motivation para si technician irespeto siya bilang kanyang superior,unless kung lagi lang umaasa si engineer kay technician ay lalong mawawala ng bilib si technician kay engineer.ganun din naman si technician dapat makinig muna si technician kung anu ang balak gawin ni engineer at bakit ganun ang gustong ipagawa ni engineer sa kanya,minsan mas tama si engineer at tama din si technician pero mas nakatataas si engineer dapat mas alam nya ang tama kaysa kay technician,kasi sa course palang mas matagal kunin ang engineering 5 years VS sa technician 2 to 3 years i think.sa working experience lang at attitude nagkakatalo.kung gusto naman ni technician na umangat gaya ni engineer pwede nyang ipagpatuloy ang course sa engineering at magtake ng board para maging ganap pa na engineer na tatawagin talaga.

nasa tao parin yan kung gusto nyang umaangat sa buhay at lagpasan si technician si engineer or mas magaling si engineer sa technical compared kay technician.

[amp]

in reality mas marami ang alam nang electronics technician kaysa electronics engineer...

BELIEVE ME!

[Woots29]

^hmmm

any proofs

[eveready battery]

in reality mas marami ang alam nang electronics technician kaysa electronics engineer...

BELIEVE ME!

i'm not agree what you said,ako po talaga zero ako pagdating sa actual when I was graduated engineering ni hindi ako marunong mag repair ng TV at cellphone,nasa specialty talaga po yan,like others said in this thread,marami ditong engineers na hindi talaga marunong mag repair ng TV or cellphone but marunong sila ng embedded products and ASIC technologies na di rin alam ni technician,honestly I'm not defensive here because I'm engineer but what like the others said nasa expertise po yan ng isang tao whether you are engineer or technician,meron alam si technician na di alam ni engineer at merong alam ni engineer na di alam ni technician.example si technician nagrerepair ng cellphone nasira yung antenna at bibili ng bagong antenna at papalitan,si engineer naman na curios bakit nasisira kaya tinitignan nya yung scope and waveform ng part na bakit nasira at tinitignan ang comparison dun sa datasheet.marami po dito sa technicians pero nageequal or mas magaling pa sa engineers,like I said before nasa tao po yan kahit hobbyist lang sya pero scientist kung mag-isip.

[updated]

Electronics Engineer--------> malaki ang sweldo
Electronics Technician------> maliit ang sweldo

may mga nakilala po ako ng electronics technician na naabot nila ang pinaka mataas na positoin sa engr level. naging senior engr sila. So kahit tech grad lang malayo din  maaabot basta simulan na niya maglakad ngayon. hehe. basta po andun yung interest at willing matuto magiging mahusay din po kahit tech graduate lng. may mga tech din po na nagdedesign ng circuit at Modification ng machine. yung iba naman ay may sarili ng company, ang mga tauhan nila puro engr, yung iba naman ayaw mag pa promote n engineer kasi daw wala OT sa Engr dept. hehe

madami po mahuhusay na engr, pero hnd po lahat ng ENGINEER marunong. ganun din sa TECHNICIAN, hnd magiging mahusay ang tech grad kung hnd siya mag research at walang curiosity.

[audiomachines]

 kya ginawa ko double course para wla ng away he he he